Sorry meant to reply to this sooner. Yeah, we're just as deterministic. The question then is, does determinism invalidate choice? What is it about choice that n

Sorry meant to reply to this sooner. Yeah, we're just as deterministic. The question then is, does determinism invalidate choice? What is it about choice that necessarily makes it contradict determinism? Is it the idea that the choice is predictable under determinism? Is it that there was ultimately only one option available for you and thus only the illusion of choice? If that's the case then we don't have that kind of choice. The way i see it is that choice/free will is just a useful concept at the level of description of people. The mistake is mixing the levels of description and expecting the resulting statements to be coherent. There's no point in a causal chain where a "choice" happens, yet at the level of description of people with behaviors, choice happens. If we don't expect some kind of metaphysical truth underlying the claim that we make choices, then there's no problem. If you want your choices to have some acausal sort of control, then you're out of luck.