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The point at which Tesla will become not a pie-in-the-sky wet dream is when the price point matches a run-of-the-mill Honda. Right now, having a Tesla is like
by 4SomeReason 10y ago
The point at which Tesla will become not a pie-in-the-sky wet dream is when the price point matches a run-of-the-mill Honda.
Right now, having a Tesla is like having a Maserati.
I know zero people who have one, my wife (a structural integrationist) _works_ on people who have them, so I am like two social tiers away from thinking of affording one, which, for me, is like dreaming of that Kawasaki Ninja I had postered on my wall as a ten year old boy.
He, and his team, need to dramatically scale down costs somehow. I read something cool today about Chinese charging stations that swap batteies instead of sitting and waiting to recharge. I wonder if something like that with an attendant would work to extend the battery "life" ad infinitum for grids in other nations.
Seems like his head is on straight though. He took profits and looked up. He said, yeah, I could drive down prices on my car by saturating more, but I'll build rockets that don't waste as much on reentry costs instead. That's smart innovation, that's passing the baton in the 400m instead of sprinting 10m and saying "I win!".
I do think there is stigma (even in my own mind, and I really am a fan of Elon) surrounding borrowing money over and over, but the reality is: almost EVERYONE does this. If you aren't Dow, or Ford, or some huge ass fucking company that has a war chest the size of Dubai, you aren't going to weather the stormy market conditions we are facing as a result of globalization (see Brexit et al for moreon that topic of discussion).
Businesses need floating because they don't exist in a vacuum, they exist because they aren't welcomed by their competitors, in fact, they are actively "sabotaged" by those that stand to lose market share, and that, my friends, is a HUGE problems with mercantilism. Unless we decide to get along, it's not going to get better, and corporate espionage has not lessened in my lifetime, not by a moonshot.
So, yeah, play nice and he and those like him will stop having to borrow money, and maybe he will throw us a bone and make a car that doesn't cost as much as my entire post-secondary education (including grad school).
Peace y'all.
- M_Grey 10y agoIt would probably be easier to have charging stations with people hot-swapping batteries, than charging station with extremely fast charge times. It would be a task that could be automated right out of the gate too.
- greenstonekid 10y agoI like this idea too. Because battery positioning within a car is quite important (at least what have read about the teslas it is) there could be a smaller 100km (60 mi) range swappable battery that is easy to remove and replace.
- M_Grey 10y agoIt might even be feasible to have a system like a drive-through carwash, that instead lifts specially compatible EV's, remove the old battery "strip" from the lower portion of the car, and then install a new one. If it could get down to 3-5 minutes, especially if your car could interface with the "hut" so you don't need to be in it...
- Denzel 10y agoElon Musk demoed Tesla's battery swapping capability a few years back: https://youtu.be/FE81S26XG8c https://youtu.be/FE81S26XG8c. I'm not sure if it's gone live at any supercharging stations yet. Maybe someone else can confirm rollout or not.
- M_Grey 10y agoSee that is just incredibly cool. I honestly see no reason why they, or someone, shouldn't be able to make it work. The barriers would probably be having enough of an installed userbase, but that's always the problem.
- jodrellblank 10y ago"Give up your brand new $10k battery, for someone else's charged but worn old one". Seems like an unwelcome offer.
- lmm 10y agoNo-one wants to own a depreciating asset like a battery. The model would be something like "pay $x/year and any member of our nationwide network will swap out your battery for a battery with at least 100 miles' worth of charge, whenever you want". They can take care of replacing worn-out batteries on their side.
- Retric 10y agoHot swap battery stations need a lot of spare battery's which gets crazy expencive. These things are 30+k each at the high end.