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Tesla doesnt make batteries they just package the cells, anyone can do this if the market demands it. Automotive companies are quite good at supply chains.

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onmobiletemp 10y ago
You dont know what youre talking about. They do make batteries. 2170s are rolling off the gig assembly line as we speak. They are already in their products. Please think before you speak.
- bischofs 10y ago
  you are correct, my bad. I did think before I spoke though so that was not necessary. It is interesting how angry people get when you say anything negative about tesla. And my point stands that anyone has access to battery technology - Samsung sdi and LG chem can scale up with any partner just as tesla and panasonic could
  - onmobiletemp 10y ago
    I apologize. There isnt really an excuse for the way i addressed your comment. As for the anger one sees among tesla fans, in my case its because tesla was a laughing stock for years before the model s and wide recognition. Fake reviews, hit peices, a death watch and not to mention the response from the average joe whenever tesla was brought up in conversation. Being called a loser by a presidential candidate despite achieving so much and surviving such massive challenges. People love to hate electric cars and especially tesla even now. They spread misinformarion about batteries being dirtier than gas or how emissions are moved and not eliminated. All of these things have made many tesla fans very bitter.
- jonknee 10y ago
  Well technically Panasonic makes the batteries in a facility that it co-owns/manages with Tesla.
  - marvin 10y ago
    Yes, and Tesla makes the battery packs using these cells.
tokipin 10y ago
Packaging the cells is the hard/expensive part. Nevermind the battery management software. And the point of the Gigafactory is to compress the supply chains between raw materials and finished product. It's an all-in investment whose singular goal is to make battery packs cheaper. The only way other companies are going to match that efficiency is if 1) they make a similar investment or 2) Tesla/Panasonic screw up.
- karpodiem 10y ago
  GM's partnership with LG Chem seems to match the market demand today more closely than Tesla'a expectations for tomorrow. People are buying CUVs due to low gas prices. The electric buzz is already wearing off.
  - tokipin 10y ago
    In my opinion that's like saying the "DVD buzz is wearing off" in comparison to VHS. :D But yes, if you don't believe electric cars are going to take over everything, the Gigafactory looks super risky, and regardless it's definitely an enormous investment to have on the books while it's not paying for itself.

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onmobiletemp 10y ago

You dont know what youre talking about. They do make batteries. 2170s are rolling off the gig assembly line as we speak. They are already in their products. Please think before you speak.

bischofs 10y ago
you are correct, my bad. I did think before I spoke though so that was not necessary. It is interesting how angry people get when you say anything negative about tesla. And my point stands that anyone has access to battery technology - Samsung sdi and LG chem can scale up with any partner just as tesla and panasonic could
- onmobiletemp 10y ago
  I apologize. There isnt really an excuse for the way i addressed your comment. As for the anger one sees among tesla fans, in my case its because tesla was a laughing stock for years before the model s and wide recognition. Fake reviews, hit peices, a death watch and not to mention the response from the average joe whenever tesla was brought up in conversation. Being called a loser by a presidential candidate despite achieving so much and surviving such massive challenges. People love to hate electric cars and especially tesla even now. They spread misinformarion about batteries being dirtier than gas or how emissions are moved and not eliminated. All of these things have made many tesla fans very bitter.
jonknee 10y ago
Well technically Panasonic makes the batteries in a facility that it co-owns/manages with Tesla.
- marvin 10y ago
  Yes, and Tesla makes the battery packs using these cells.

tokipin 10y ago

Packaging the cells is the hard/expensive part. Nevermind the battery management software. And the point of the Gigafactory is to compress the supply chains between raw materials and finished product. It's an all-in investment whose singular goal is to make battery packs cheaper. The only way other companies are going to match that efficiency is if 1) they make a similar investment or 2) Tesla/Panasonic screw up.

karpodiem 10y ago
GM's partnership with LG Chem seems to match the market demand today more closely than Tesla'a expectations for tomorrow. People are buying CUVs due to low gas prices. The electric buzz is already wearing off.
- tokipin 10y ago
  In my opinion that's like saying the "DVD buzz is wearing off" in comparison to VHS. :D But yes, if you don't believe electric cars are going to take over everything, the Gigafactory looks super risky, and regardless it's definitely an enormous investment to have on the books while it's not paying for itself.