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Can you explain why do you consider AP2 to be a downgrade from AP1? I thought it's everything AP1 has + more.

• Cookingboy 10y ago
  Supposedly that's the case, but since they switched away from Mobile Eye they are still trying to reach feature parity with AP1 at this point. It was supposed to take 2 months, but viola, 6 months later they are still struggling and there are many YouTube videos out there showing how terrible and unsafe it is. It still lack many features of AP1 such as automatic lane changing and blind spot detection at this point. Lane keeping is also not as stable and safe as AP1 and many videos show that the car like to drift into oncoming traffic.
  • ehsankia 10y ago
    Self driving tech is (still) a really hard problem, unlike what people are lead to believe looking at the dozens of company jumping on the bandwagon and releasing cool looking videos. People look at that recent video of the Tesla car doing a full A to B drive and they're like, wow, that's awesome! Then, they ask themselves, hmm, I wonder why Google hasn't released anything after a decade of research. And realize too that google had a simple A to B video 8 years ago too... yet 8 years later it's still not ready.
    • TomMarius 10y ago
      Yeah, but no. This isn't about the autopilot not being like on the video, it's about the autopilot being worse than it used to be. The really hard problem already had a better solution.
  • ehsankia 10y ago
    Self driving tech is (still) a really hard problem, unlike what people are lead to believe looking at the dozens of company jumping on the bandwagon and releasing cool looking videos. People look at that recent video of the Tesla car doing a full A to B drive and they're like, wow, that's awesome! Then, they ask themselves, hmm, I wonder why Google hasn't released anything after a decade of research. And realize too that google had a simple A to B video 8 years ago too... yet 8 years later it's still not ready.
  • jfoster 10y ago
    I looked up AP2 videos on YouTube. For anyone who wants to see an example, here's one: https://youtu.be/UZ1XLqc5IUg https://youtu.be/UZ1XLqc5IUg
    • xxbondsxx 10y ago
      Wow, I'm surprised this isn't bigger news yet. Even further indication that Level 4 driving needs LIDAR
• ClassyJacket 10y ago
  It will, but it doesn't yet. Cars with the second generation autopilot hardware were sold without any autopilot at all. It also had no auto park, no automatic headlights, no automatic wipers, no automatic emergency braking, no side collision warning, no lane departure warning, no automatic lane change, or summon. A 45Mph speed limited version of autosteer was enabled in an update, and maybe some of those other features. I sadly do not actually own one myself to know.
  • majormajor 10y ago
    > no automatic headlights, no automatic wipers, no automatic emergency braking, no side collision warning, no lane departure warning Wait, does this mean Tesla is currently selling a 100K car with none of those features, just a hopeful promise of them coming soon? That's... interesting.
    • rorosaurus 10y ago
      Correct. They are "re-training" their AP2 system to achieve pairity with AP1. The falling out with MobileEye resulted in them having to remove AP1 prematurely before having a proper replacement.
  • dmode 10y ago
    This is simply not true. AP2 has auto park, side collision warning, auto headlights, emergency braking, forward collision warning, 55 mph speed limit, with TACC at 80 mph.
    • mikeash 10y ago
      Not sure why you're being downvoted, as this is correct. (Actually, it looks like TACC is now up to 85MPH.) The other comment was correct for a time, but that info is obsolete.
    • robotresearcher 10y ago
      Look at the past-tense of the statement.