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No - because, like discord, gitter makes it a point to make privacy very hard to set up. This is fairly deliberate and is the reason why enterprises have a hard

No - because, like discord, gitter makes it a point to make privacy very hard to set up. This is fairly deliberate and is the reason why enterprises have a hard time adopting it.

connorshea 10y ago
Why not use Mattermost for something like this? We ship it with GitLab Omnibus and it's open core. https://about.mattermost.com/ https://about.mattermost.com/ EDIT: Previously said open source, open core is the correct term.
- sandGorgon 10y ago
  It's the gitlab vs github stand - self hosted vs hosted saas. Gitlab is incredible... but I really cant host right now. Same for mattermost. I do believe that the ability to run a fairly large hosted system at scale and with incredible performance is what the gitter guys bring to the table.
- the_common_man 10y ago
  Mattermost is open core and not open source.
jhgg 10y ago
Can you explain how Discord makes privacy hard to set up? Servers by default are private (No one can join or even see the server unless they are invited to it). You can disable people's ability to create invites with a 3 clicks. (disclaimer: work at Discord & fishing for feedback about how we can make this easier)
- sandGorgon 10y ago
  So, this is related to another comment I made. We are not hosting our own. We want to throw money at discord bringing in enterprise like features in its hosted version. I linked to a ticket - if you follow that trail, there are many more.
suprememoocow 10y ago
Sandeep, it's interesting that you view it that way, but it was never our intention to deliberately make privacy hard. When creating a new room, you can choose to make it public, private and optionally allow anyone from your GitHub org to join your private room. See http://imgur.com/jIb8EKA http://imgur.com/jIb8EKA It's definitely true that the product focus on Gitter has always been more on public rooms. That's because the focus of our company has always been on the network of public communities, rather than enterprise features, which we feel are well represented in the market by other great products like Slack, Mattermost, etc. (Background: I'm CTO/Cofounder at Gitter)
- suprememoocow 10y ago
  Additionally, would love to hear your feedback on what you think we could change in Gitter to make privacy easier and less frictionless.
- sandGorgon 10y ago
  I completely understand and respect that. It was not a complaint - but cognizance that you had a certain philosophy in mind. Forget slack - look at hipchat which has far simpler privacy controls. The ability to create an organization (NOT linked to GitHub), per channel permissions is all that's needed. Hipchat makes this dead simple. Lots of different people will have different requirements - some people will need Active Directory even, but essentially the only two things needed for enterprise messaging is permissions and search.

No - because, like discord, gitter makes it a point to make privacy very hard to set up. This is fairly deliberate and is the reason why enterprises have a hard time adopting it.

connorshea 10y ago

Why not use Mattermost for something like this? We ship it with GitLab Omnibus and it's open core. https://about.mattermost.com/ https://about.mattermost.com/ EDIT: Previously said open source, open core is the correct term.

sandGorgon 10y ago
It's the gitlab vs github stand - self hosted vs hosted saas. Gitlab is incredible... but I really cant host right now. Same for mattermost. I do believe that the ability to run a fairly large hosted system at scale and with incredible performance is what the gitter guys bring to the table.
the_common_man 10y ago
Mattermost is open core and not open source.

jhgg 10y ago

Can you explain how Discord makes privacy hard to set up? Servers by default are private (No one can join or even see the server unless they are invited to it). You can disable people's ability to create invites with a 3 clicks. (disclaimer: work at Discord & fishing for feedback about how we can make this easier)

sandGorgon 10y ago
So, this is related to another comment I made. We are not hosting our own. We want to throw money at discord bringing in enterprise like features in its hosted version. I linked to a ticket - if you follow that trail, there are many more.

suprememoocow 10y ago

Sandeep, it's interesting that you view it that way, but it was never our intention to deliberately make privacy hard. When creating a new room, you can choose to make it public, private and optionally allow anyone from your GitHub org to join your private room. See http://imgur.com/jIb8EKA http://imgur.com/jIb8EKA It's definitely true that the product focus on Gitter has always been more on public rooms. That's because the focus of our company has always been on the network of public communities, rather than enterprise features, which we feel are well represented in the market by other great products like Slack, Mattermost, etc. (Background: I'm CTO/Cofounder at Gitter)

suprememoocow 10y ago
Additionally, would love to hear your feedback on what you think we could change in Gitter to make privacy easier and less frictionless.
sandGorgon 10y ago
I completely understand and respect that. It was not a complaint - but cognizance that you had a certain philosophy in mind. Forget slack - look at hipchat which has far simpler privacy controls. The ability to create an organization (NOT linked to GitHub), per channel permissions is all that's needed. Hipchat makes this dead simple. Lots of different people will have different requirements - some people will need Active Directory even, but essentially the only two things needed for enterprise messaging is permissions and search.