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do they have competitors? Other lyrics sites look and feel like static html sites from the early 2000's

beaconstudios 10y ago
I don't think having a more modern design could be classed as a unique selling point. Users often aren't that bothered from what I can tell, if you just want lyrics the fact that the site isn't hyper modern doesn't matter as long as the lyrics are accurate.
- Larrikin 10y ago
  Its a testament to a site like ohhla.com . I think they've had one site design refresh since 2000, but I don't think there have ever been lyrics on genius that I didn't also find on ohhla.
jonknee 10y ago
> Other lyrics sites look and feel like static html sites from the early 2000's Why does that not make them competitors? With the struggles Genius is having I would say they are definitely feeling the competition.
- MediumD 10y ago
  Competition isn't the only reason companies struggle. They often are solving an insignificant problem that people don't need a solution for.
dragonwriter 10y ago
> do they have competitors? Other lyrics sites look and feel like static html sites from the early 2000's If I'm looking for song lyrics, and not some collaborative social information-exchange medium, then that's exactly what I want it to look like (and pretty much be.) Genius is slow loading and slow scrolling and has bigger ad blocks than most lyrics sites. If I'm not specifically looking for annotations rather than mere lyrics, it's strictly worse Tha the competition.
- SilasX 10y ago
  Strange, their AMP version works fine, don't see why they let the desktop get so bloated.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    I was actually comparing the AMP version on mobile to several other lyrics sites (I think the performance issues relate to ad loading.)
    - SilasX 10y ago
      Wow, really? I never noticed any lag on Genius AMP (no, not shilling).
      - dragonwriter 10y ago
        It's the only lag I've seen on any AMP, and the ads didn't complete loading, so I assume something to do with ad loading is the issue.
- sparky_z 10y ago
  Those aren't really competitors, though. At least not in the spirit of the op comment. > I haven't found Genius to be significantly better at annotating lyrics than any of it's competitors So again, what competitors are they talking about?
  - Spoom 10y ago
    Since when was annotating lyrics a competitive business? Edit: Since I've been downvoted at least once, I want to clarify. I'm unsure what monetary value can be extracted from the ability to annotate third party websites, or in this case, specifically, lyrics. As others have mentioned, if I want lyrics, I typically just want the lyrics, as uncomplicated as possible. Perhaps I'm missing something.
zitterbewegung 10y ago
Google embeds lyrics in search results see https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=burn%20the%20witch https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=burn%20the%20wit...
erinniehaus 10y ago
The only competitor I have seen is Fiskkit (www.fiskkit.com) which lets readers tag and comment at the sentence level and call out logical fallacies

I don't think having a more modern design could be classed as a unique selling point. Users often aren't that bothered from what I can tell, if you just want lyrics the fact that the site isn't hyper modern doesn't matter as long as the lyrics are accurate.

Larrikin 10y ago
Its a testament to a site like ohhla.com . I think they've had one site design refresh since 2000, but I don't think there have ever been lyrics on genius that I didn't also find on ohhla.

jonknee 10y ago

> Other lyrics sites look and feel like static html sites from the early 2000's Why does that not make them competitors? With the struggles Genius is having I would say they are definitely feeling the competition.

MediumD 10y ago
Competition isn't the only reason companies struggle. They often are solving an insignificant problem that people don't need a solution for.

dragonwriter 10y ago

> do they have competitors? Other lyrics sites look and feel like static html sites from the early 2000's If I'm looking for song lyrics, and not some collaborative social information-exchange medium, then that's exactly what I want it to look like (and pretty much be.) Genius is slow loading and slow scrolling and has bigger ad blocks than most lyrics sites. If I'm not specifically looking for annotations rather than mere lyrics, it's strictly worse Tha the competition.

SilasX 10y ago
Strange, their AMP version works fine, don't see why they let the desktop get so bloated.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  I was actually comparing the AMP version on mobile to several other lyrics sites (I think the performance issues relate to ad loading.)
  - SilasX 10y ago
    Wow, really? I never noticed any lag on Genius AMP (no, not shilling).
    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      It's the only lag I've seen on any AMP, and the ads didn't complete loading, so I assume something to do with ad loading is the issue.
sparky_z 10y ago
Those aren't really competitors, though. At least not in the spirit of the op comment. > I haven't found Genius to be significantly better at annotating lyrics than any of it's competitors So again, what competitors are they talking about?
- Spoom 10y ago
  Since when was annotating lyrics a competitive business? Edit: Since I've been downvoted at least once, I want to clarify. I'm unsure what monetary value can be extracted from the ability to annotate third party websites, or in this case, specifically, lyrics. As others have mentioned, if I want lyrics, I typically just want the lyrics, as uncomplicated as possible. Perhaps I'm missing something.

zitterbewegung 10y ago

Google embeds lyrics in search results see https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=burn%20the%20witch https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=burn%20the%20wit...

erinniehaus 10y ago

The only competitor I have seen is Fiskkit (www.fiskkit.com) which lets readers tag and comment at the sentence level and call out logical fallacies