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Worth noting people have died looking for it, which makes me believe the claim is likely real, especially given Fenn has charted private helicopters to help sea
by saycheese 10y ago
Worth noting people have died looking for it, which makes me believe the claim is likely real, especially given Fenn has charted private helicopters to help search for those lost and known to be searching for the treasure:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenn_treasure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenn_treasure
Fenn hasn't been out in the Rocky Mountains, north of Santa Fe, to check on the chest since he hid it, but he knows it's still there.
My guess is that the prize is not inside, but with Fenn; which explains why he checks to see if someone has found it and requests they provide proof of what is inside.
Fenn has more clues posted here:
http://www.oldsantafetradingco.com/the-thrill-resource-page http://www.oldsantafetradingco.com/the-thrill-resource-page
- widforss 10y agoThat is not a plausible theory. Sure, the treasure might be elsewhere, but I wouldn't keep the prize in my own possesion if I were over 70 years old. What if someone finds the chest after his death. I would rather believe it contains a note requesting that Fenn should be contacted by the lucky one.
- saycheese 10y agoAssure you that there are ways to deal with Fenn dieing and still require the party finding it to make contact with someone to claim the prize; in fact, Fenn planned this when he thought he would die from cancer.
- 1001101 10y agoFrom Wikipedia: "He filled the chest with "treasure" containing gold nuggets, rare coins, jewelry and gemstones, along with a jar holding his autobiography. He intended to hide it and end his life nearby, with the treasure as a legacy.[2] However, he survived his illness and waited until he was 79 or 80 to hide the treasure." These are all bearer instruments. You may not know if it's found. 79-80 is 2009-2010. If he had a cellphone, there's a trail for some enterprising telcom worker or NSA analyst to follow (base station->sector->signal strength if not outright location). Presumably he drove there, maybe some ALPR database to mine.
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- freehunter 10y agoKey to a safe deposit box and an address of the bank is more than enough to fulfill that requirement. At my bank, they come with two keys. Put one in the box and keep the other, and check the safe deposit box periodically.
- joering2 10y agoThat's not an option nowadays as far as I know. I don't have the time to dig this up, but banking law forbids unknown parties to access safe deposit box in major banks. Sure you can give the second key to anyone you want but when they showed up at the bank, they will have to show their ID that matches name on the list of people you gave permission to access the box (at least that's how it is at Bank of America, Chase and Wells Fargo - I don't have boxes at other banks). This is part of KYC (know your customer) routine for banking institutions. All he needed to do is leave a will-type of letter in this chest and directs you to bring this letter to his lawyer and that will do it.
- jdeibele 10y agoAt my credit union they've moved to using thumbprints on a reader for regular visitors so the staff doesn't have to go through checking signatures, etc. I'm executor for my aunt. She has a safe deposit box at a bank to which I have her key but I'm not on the list of people allowed access. They would have allowed me to open the box and remove a copy of the will if that was the only place it existed (that was also the situation with my dad) but otherwise I would not be allowed access. Interestingly the agreements I've signed specifically disclaim any responsibility for gold, silver, cash and similar items.
- freehunter 10y agoYou're right, I actually asked a banker after I wrote that and she said you'd need to show your ID that matches the name on the account. Sorry, too many bank heist movies I guess.
- oever 10y agoOr a bitcoin private key. Fenn can monitor whether the money's been moved out of the account to know if the treasure's been found.
- DanBC 10y ago> Worth noting people have died looking for it, which makes me believe the claim is likely real, At least one person died looking for the Fargo treasure, and that was made up.
- saycheese 10y agoThanks, though I have no idea what the "Fargo treasure" is, so I'm not able to comment on it. Do you have links to it, proof it's fake, the related death, etc.? (Attempted to Google "Fargo treasure" but it appeared there were a number of different Fargo treasures.) EDIT: Link http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/kumiko-the-treasure-hunter/true-story-death-takako-konishi-fargo/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/kumiko-the-treasure-hunter/t... Yes, I would hope it's obvious that a fictional treasure is not real. Difference between your example and mine is the source is claiming it's real, aware people are dying, and spending money to help look for missing people.
- exodust 10y agoFargo the movie. Which in my opinion should not have said "this is a true story" in the movie or TV series. It's sort of "cheating" and uncool when credits in a movie state something as fact - which they know people will read as fact, but is actually made up.
- saycheese 10y agoFargo is based on a true story: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56de2c53e4b0ffe6f8ea78c4 http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56de2c53e4b0ffe6f8ea78c4
- ryanwaggoner 10y agoUh, no, it's not. Did you read the link you posted? Two minor details from two separate cases were (allegedly) kind of related. Everything else was made up.
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- valuearb 10y agomy guess is it's a scam, cause his story doesn't add up.
- valuearb 10y agomy guess is it's a scam, cause his story doesn't add up.
- dorfsmay 10y agoGood point. From reading the article I immediately thought that maybe Randy Bilyeu did find it and decided to disappear.
- ransom1538 10y agoIf he did drive there, the license plate would be interesting. He probably picked up supplies or even bought food along the way. When you are about to go deeper into the woods, and that LAST stop is just sitting there, you usually grab a few things. EVERY convenience store I know has a few cameras. Also gps units use satellites? If he did use one would there be a log of this? Just sayin'
- RobotCaleb 10y agoWhat's a "satellite lookup for gps request"?
- tapatio 10y agoMy ex-wife. She always knows where I'm thinking of going.
- blhack 10y agoGPS units are receive-only. The tech behind GPS is actually really cool! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System#Fundamentals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System#Fund...
- omegaham 10y agoYep. I've had the "We can only receive" conversation with my SO on a few car trips through the countryside. "What? You have GPS. Why can't you search Google Maps on your phone?" Explaining the difference between cell towers and satellites in orbit is hard to do when the asker has no idea how cell phone infrastructure works. Which is pretty much everyone.