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I wonder when we will be able to integrate blockchain based entities like Aragon into the startup economy: https://aragon.one/ https://aragon.one/ We haven't

by Kinnard 10y ago

I wonder when we will be able to integrate blockchain based entities like Aragon into the startup economy: https://aragon.one/ https://aragon.one/ We haven't seen things like the first acquisition, the first bankruptcy, mergers, etc . . . and don't even know if those things are exactly possible as we conceive of them today.

ska 10y ago
That sounds like a category error. Your individual and/or corporate actions happen in a legal jurisdiction - technology does not change that.
- Kinnard 10y ago
  I think we're moving into a post-Westphalian world.
  - ska 10y ago
    Interesting, but a pretty strong claim to leave implicit in your statement, to say the least. As far as I can see there is today both a massive technological and social gap to what is needed to force a crisis that might result in such a world, but it's interesting to think about.
    - Kinnard 10y ago
      I wasn't trying to argue or prove that we're entering a post-Westphalian world. Just stating my belief that that is the case . . . I do have a day job . . . Anyway, I bet Trump could do it!
- vidarh 10y ago
  It'll be interesting to see "solutions" like that run into the first clashes with a legal system that is not inclined to accept "the software won't let us do that" as a valid excuse for not complying.
  - Kinnard 10y ago
    I tend to think about it the other way. I think it'll be interesting to see a legal system's first clashes with "code doesn't do that".
    - vidarh 10y ago
      Most legal systems have hundreds of years of experience with clashes with people saying "we can't do that". It's one of the oldest excuses around. The solution tends to be to either assign whatever applicable fines or other punishments applies, or to put someone in jail for contempt until the come up with a solution. If you have structured your company in a way that makes it impossible for you to comply with a courts decision, then that is your problem - it does not absolve you of the responsibility to comply with the courts decision. There's simply nothing new there. Blaming technology will rank up there with "the dog ate my capitalization table" on the list of arguments the court will not care about.

by Kinnard 10y ago

ska 10y ago

That sounds like a category error. Your individual and/or corporate actions happen in a legal jurisdiction - technology does not change that.

Kinnard 10y ago
I think we're moving into a post-Westphalian world.
- ska 10y ago
  Interesting, but a pretty strong claim to leave implicit in your statement, to say the least. As far as I can see there is today both a massive technological and social gap to what is needed to force a crisis that might result in such a world, but it's interesting to think about.
  - Kinnard 10y ago
    I wasn't trying to argue or prove that we're entering a post-Westphalian world. Just stating my belief that that is the case . . . I do have a day job . . . Anyway, I bet Trump could do it!
vidarh 10y ago
It'll be interesting to see "solutions" like that run into the first clashes with a legal system that is not inclined to accept "the software won't let us do that" as a valid excuse for not complying.
- Kinnard 10y ago
  I tend to think about it the other way. I think it'll be interesting to see a legal system's first clashes with "code doesn't do that".
  - vidarh 10y ago
    Most legal systems have hundreds of years of experience with clashes with people saying "we can't do that". It's one of the oldest excuses around. The solution tends to be to either assign whatever applicable fines or other punishments applies, or to put someone in jail for contempt until the come up with a solution. If you have structured your company in a way that makes it impossible for you to comply with a courts decision, then that is your problem - it does not absolve you of the responsibility to comply with the courts decision. There's simply nothing new there. Blaming technology will rank up there with "the dog ate my capitalization table" on the list of arguments the court will not care about.