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Perhaps they could put a physical barrier in front of that, so that it's no longer possible to go forward, and then it's no longer part of the intersection?

lb1lf 10y ago
-Then again, would that be cheaper or less confusing than simply keeping the light?
- GFischer 10y ago
  I think it's certainly less confusing to put a physical barrier. I could see myself waiting for the light to turn green :) . And it shouldn't cost more than 10.000 euros (a couple of years of maintenance of the traffic light). I don't understand which of the lights is the offending one: https://www.google.com/maps/place/G%C3%BCntzstra%C3%9Fe,+Dresden,+Germany/@51.0535697,13.7579662,18z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4709cf5020d50865:0xb54dabd4097d0087!8m2!3d51.0497513!4d13.7571707 https://www.google.com/maps/place/G%C3%BCntzstra%C3%9Fe,+Dre...
  - lb1lf 10y ago
    First of all, the offending light, if you can call it that, is the one where Ziegelstraße opens into Güntzstraße, here: (0). Also, the only way that unit maintenance cost makes sense is if it is calculated by taking whatever amount they spend on anything traffic-light related in a year and divides it by the number of traffic lights; that infrastructure remains in place even if this light is removed. So - you don't really save anything except the annual maintenance trip, whose cost is probably measured in the low hundreds (educated guess: two blokes with high-visibility vests, driving a VW Caddy packed to the gunwales with traffic light bulbs to the site, spending ten minutes swapping out the light bulb before proceeding to the next light.) Also, you'd need to change the law for it to happen. That being said, I suspect I'd keep you company waiting at that light; when in doubt, I tend to not move into traffic just to see what happens... :) (0) https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0539102,13.7575856,3a,75y,111.79h,84.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scW7PqWjukB-tqiTFHHMidA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0539102,13.7575856,3a,75y,11...

lb1lf 10y ago

-Then again, would that be cheaper or less confusing than simply keeping the light?

GFischer 10y ago
I think it's certainly less confusing to put a physical barrier. I could see myself waiting for the light to turn green :) . And it shouldn't cost more than 10.000 euros (a couple of years of maintenance of the traffic light). I don't understand which of the lights is the offending one: https://www.google.com/maps/place/G%C3%BCntzstra%C3%9Fe,+Dresden,+Germany/@51.0535697,13.7579662,18z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4709cf5020d50865:0xb54dabd4097d0087!8m2!3d51.0497513!4d13.7571707 https://www.google.com/maps/place/G%C3%BCntzstra%C3%9Fe,+Dre...
- lb1lf 10y ago
  First of all, the offending light, if you can call it that, is the one where Ziegelstraße opens into Güntzstraße, here: (0). Also, the only way that unit maintenance cost makes sense is if it is calculated by taking whatever amount they spend on anything traffic-light related in a year and divides it by the number of traffic lights; that infrastructure remains in place even if this light is removed. So - you don't really save anything except the annual maintenance trip, whose cost is probably measured in the low hundreds (educated guess: two blokes with high-visibility vests, driving a VW Caddy packed to the gunwales with traffic light bulbs to the site, spending ten minutes swapping out the light bulb before proceeding to the next light.) Also, you'd need to change the law for it to happen. That being said, I suspect I'd keep you company waiting at that light; when in doubt, I tend to not move into traffic just to see what happens... :) (0) https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0539102,13.7575856,3a,75y,111.79h,84.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scW7PqWjukB-tqiTFHHMidA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 https://www.google.com/maps/@51.0539102,13.7575856,3a,75y,11...