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>So far Google has not shown any inclination that they know how to enterprise, and in fact it's fairly counter-cultural for them. They have over 3 million busi

>So far Google has not shown any inclination that they know how to enterprise, and in fact it's fairly counter-cultural for them. They have over 3 million businesses that use G Suite and their other enterprise offerings. To imply that they no inclination on "how to enterprise" or that "it's fairly counter-cultural for them" is disingenuous to say the least. >But right now, almost all the money in cloud is with the enterprise, and right now Google has no idea how to address that market. That's amusing considering all of the enterprise customers that are using GCP. Perhaps you should watch their cloud conference.

jedberg 10y ago
Selling GSuite is very different than selling compute. Besides being SaaS vs. infrastructure, the GSuite contracts are tiny compared to enterprise infrastructure. If a company with 100,000 employees paid list price for GSuite monthly, that would only be $1,000,000/mo, which is peanuts for an enterprise contract. Especially since they would probably get a huge bulk discount. What I mean by counter-cultural is that at Google, they try to solve problems with computers instead of humans. It's worked really well for them so far, but it won't work for selling huge enterprise contracts. Yes, they have spun up a small support and sales team, but they will need to grow it a lot to support lots of large enterprises. Also, in companies that cater to enterprises, the sales team drives the engineering roadmap, or it is at least a collaboration. From talking to folks in Google, it seems that they don't really allow the sales team any input in to product cycles or technology. And I attended their cloud conference and I'm very aware of their customer base vs. AWS. Their customers would all be considered fairly small to AWS, with the exception of a few big players. Edit: An additional anecdote, I saw firsthand how they support an enterprise install of thousands of GSuite users. For the most part, it was "there's the docs, good luck". Sometimes they would assign an engineer, who would never come on site, to tell us that what we want is impossible.

jedberg 10y ago

Selling GSuite is very different than selling compute. Besides being SaaS vs. infrastructure, the GSuite contracts are tiny compared to enterprise infrastructure. If a company with 100,000 employees paid list price for GSuite monthly, that would only be $1,000,000/mo, which is peanuts for an enterprise contract. Especially since they would probably get a huge bulk discount. What I mean by counter-cultural is that at Google, they try to solve problems with computers instead of humans. It's worked really well for them so far, but it won't work for selling huge enterprise contracts. Yes, they have spun up a small support and sales team, but they will need to grow it a lot to support lots of large enterprises. Also, in companies that cater to enterprises, the sales team drives the engineering roadmap, or it is at least a collaboration. From talking to folks in Google, it seems that they don't really allow the sales team any input in to product cycles or technology. And I attended their cloud conference and I'm very aware of their customer base vs. AWS. Their customers would all be considered fairly small to AWS, with the exception of a few big players. Edit: An additional anecdote, I saw firsthand how they support an enterprise install of thousands of GSuite users. For the most part, it was "there's the docs, good luck". Sometimes they would assign an engineer, who would never come on site, to tell us that what we want is impossible.