Look I'm very happy you succeeded and made it. I don't envy you, or covet your success. I do disparage your lack of information on developmental statistics and

Look I'm very happy you succeeded and made it. I don't envy you, or covet your success. I do disparage your lack of information on developmental statistics and societal behavior. Matter of fact the most regret is not having a reading/article list ready at short notice, to help with this discussion. It would help by showing, for example: 1) Even people who argue for welfare are arguing for actual fairness. 1.1) studies show that child development (which relates to scores) is influenced by maternal and grand maternal nutrition levels, and so poverty results in disadvantaged kids without any fault on their part. This kills the fair concept you hold. Which is why I'm for fairness in this area. I want it to be fair, and I don't think kids who are suffering through no fault of their own, should be disadvantaged by unfairness masquerading as "fairness" 2) reduction in social mobility means that yes, even if you work hard, you will tread water. So not all entrepreneurs make it. Many many more fail. And lots of people work 18 hour days, 7 days a week and still tread water. 3) evidence for the American dream, other than the fact that large chunks of my family made it and lived in an America where this was accepted and the reason people were attracted 4) bias, systemic, gender, age and racial, and how they persist despite laws, despite efforts to rub it out (and it has improved since this fight stil started. The world is inherently unfair. People are losing even after putting in as much effort as you. The fair, is in that someone gets to compete on the same platform as you. That they enter the court without handicaps.