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I think the tipping point last time (SOPA/PIPA protests) was when Reddit, Wikipedia, Google, etc. went dark. It's sad we don't have Aaron Swartz to help this ti

by finkin1 10y ago

I think the tipping point last time (SOPA/PIPA protests) was when Reddit, Wikipedia, Google, etc. went dark. It's sad we don't have Aaron Swartz to help this time around. It's good to see Sam offering help, but who is actually going to step up?

RangerScience 10y ago
What's needed for "another Aaron"? I know he had a pre-existing following; is that required? Do you think someone could fill those shoes this time around, starting from scratch?
- ryandrake 10y ago
  > What's needed for "another Aaron"? Courage. The cynic in me answers "Someone who doesn't mind being becoming a target?" I notice nobody is jumping up and down volunteering to be "another Assange" or "another Snowden". Different topics but similar level of fortitude needed.
  - simplehuman 10y ago
    And best of luck finding these in immigrant rich silicon valley who are already petrified of losing their visa with the new government change.
    - Derrick_Blake 10y ago
      That's a whole nother issue and equally messed up.
      - simplehuman 10y ago
        Sorry, to put that comment in context.. There was an article a couple of days back of how immigrants are creating massive value by starting startups in the valley. Well, these guys have the most incentive to stand up for an open internet but they won't/can't.
  - RangerScience 10y ago
    Hmm. Do you know anyone with a plan, but without the courage? I don't know if I have the courage, but I definitely don't have a plan. I feel badly prideful the way that sounds like I'm presuming that I have the capability but not the courage - yet at the same time, I'm reminded of the end of this quote: “We bring you here to a House for the Feeble-minded and the man who won’t accept that is the man we want. It’s a method that can be cruel but it works. It won’t do to say to a man, ‘You can create. Do so.’ It is much safer to wait for a man to say, ‘I can create, and I will do so whether you wish it or not.’ There are ten thousand men like you, George, who support the advancing technology of fifteen hundred worlds. We can’t allow ourselves to miss one recruit to that number or waste our efforts on one member who doesn’t measure up.” - Asimov, Profession" On the rare chance that it's that case - for anyone reading thing and thinking the same think - it's worth asking the question.

by finkin1 10y ago

RangerScience 10y ago

What's needed for "another Aaron"? I know he had a pre-existing following; is that required? Do you think someone could fill those shoes this time around, starting from scratch?

ryandrake 10y ago
> What's needed for "another Aaron"? Courage. The cynic in me answers "Someone who doesn't mind being becoming a target?" I notice nobody is jumping up and down volunteering to be "another Assange" or "another Snowden". Different topics but similar level of fortitude needed.
- simplehuman 10y ago
  And best of luck finding these in immigrant rich silicon valley who are already petrified of losing their visa with the new government change.
  - Derrick_Blake 10y ago
    That's a whole nother issue and equally messed up.
    - simplehuman 10y ago
      Sorry, to put that comment in context.. There was an article a couple of days back of how immigrants are creating massive value by starting startups in the valley. Well, these guys have the most incentive to stand up for an open internet but they won't/can't.
- RangerScience 10y ago
  Hmm. Do you know anyone with a plan, but without the courage? I don't know if I have the courage, but I definitely don't have a plan. I feel badly prideful the way that sounds like I'm presuming that I have the capability but not the courage - yet at the same time, I'm reminded of the end of this quote: “We bring you here to a House for the Feeble-minded and the man who won’t accept that is the man we want. It’s a method that can be cruel but it works. It won’t do to say to a man, ‘You can create. Do so.’ It is much safer to wait for a man to say, ‘I can create, and I will do so whether you wish it or not.’ There are ten thousand men like you, George, who support the advancing technology of fifteen hundred worlds. We can’t allow ourselves to miss one recruit to that number or waste our efforts on one member who doesn’t measure up.” - Asimov, Profession" On the rare chance that it's that case - for anyone reading thing and thinking the same think - it's worth asking the question.