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I perceive this to be because of unfair characterizations by opposing media. Example: do all conservatives think climate change is a hoax? Maybe some uncritic
by m52go 10y ago
I perceive this to be because of unfair characterizations by opposing media.
Example: do all conservatives think climate change is a hoax? Maybe some uncritical, uneducated ones do believe this based on hearsay and because it's 'fashionable' in their social groups. But more informed conservatives, from what I've seen, don't reject the science entirely. They question specific numbers and trends that make the case for climate change weaker than the liberal one.
So to clarify: conservatives are skeptical of specifics, while liberals accuse them of wholesale rejection.
What do you see on The Daily Show? The latter.
Example from the other side: are all liberals socialists? Maybe some uncritical, uneducated ones want outright socialism based on hearsay and because it's 'fashionable' in their social groups. But more informed liberals, from what I've seen, don't want socialism. They have more nuanced views on social programs that, when better understood, are really just public welfare programs to promote equality of opportunity in a society with lots of excess capital.
So to clarify: liberals want reasonable social benefits, while conservatives accuse them of being radical socialists.
What do you see on Breitbart? The latter.
Neither side is innocent. But liberals have claimed a monopoly on the terms 'logic' and 'progressive' as well as virtually all of academia and mainstream media...so it's hard to fight back. Which is yet another reason Trump's win was so incredible & unexpected.
Please realize this is based on no hard evidence, just personal observation.
- throwaway2016a 10y agoI have family and "fiends" who are conservative and I don't watch major news networks... Having recently spent some time with them I can say the amount of overtly racist, overtly homophobic, overtly anti Muslim (not just the radical ones, all of them), overtly anti immigrants (even though they themselves have immigrant grandparents) is mind blowing. And.. . They claim absolute knowledge that climate change is a hoax without any supporting evidence. They are ant-marijuanna legalization based purely on perceived moral reasons and only believe the scientific studies that support their view. Every single Republican[1] Trump voter I have personally met is like this. Which is purely anecdotal but I don't think it is all the opposing media. [1] The Libertarians who voted Trump are a different story. I've found most of them to be somewhere on the spectrum from voting for Trump because they weighed the issues and felt he was a better vote than Clinton and Johnson all the way to intentionally just wanting to see the government burn.
- m52go 10y agoInteresting. I have the opposite experience. /r/the_donald, which I believe was a significant factor in Trump's victory, and which is still a hotbed of activity for Trump supporters, is overtly pro-gay and pro-marijuana. In the real world, there was a nearly sold-out inaugural ball in a DC suburb for gay Trump supporters. Support from communities the media like to say is nonexistent exists (although to what specific degree, I'm not sure). http://gaydeploraball.com/tickets http://gaydeploraball.com/tickets
- throwaway2016a 10y agoI'm sure they exist. Just I haven't met them. I have met some that are reasonable. But as I said, those tend to be the ones who are actually Libertarian from my experience.