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"Reality has a well-known liberal bias" --Stephen Colbert
by nextstep 10y ago
"Reality has a well-known liberal bias" --Stephen Colbert
- pizzetta 10y agoI think Nature has more of a Libertarian bias, or maybe that's just me.
- rc_bhg 10y agoI don't see anyone calling nature fair and equitable though. It's survival by luck and chance. You happen to find and catch the food, then you get to live.
- the_gastropod 10y agoYou mean Social Darwinism?
- tomlock 10y agoDepends on what you mean by Libertarian, or what you mean by Nature. Social primates generally have collective senses of justice (if my friend gets a grape I should get a grape too). Even on a single-cell level self-sacrifice for the collective (slime moulds). Of course, its totally possible to argue that these traits could be Libertarian traits too. Aren't we the only creatures on earth with government?
- Danihan 10y agoThat sense of collective justice only applies to the in-group, within family or tribal units. Your tribe might fight another tribe to the death over some territory, or for some grapes. Also, collective justice isn't exactly something you want to appeal to in general. The mob might lynch you for being too annoying, for instance.
- tomlock 10y agoI'm not "appealing" to it, I'm making the point that nature isn't particularly aligned with Libertarian ideals. I wouldn't consider family or tribal preferences to be particularly cogent with the philosophy of Libertarianism, for instance.
- Danihan 10y agoWhat would you call someone who wants unlimited freedom for people within their in-group, but authoritarianism for anyone outside of their in-group? Libertarian? Authoritarian? Colonialist? A lot of Trump supporters are that way. They want endless liberty and greatness for American, but if you aren't American you can fuck right off -- you're lucky we don't just come take your country over.
- tomlock 10y agoI wouldn't consider most Trump supporters to be particularly Libertarian either.
- gnipgnip 10y agoYeah, nature is concerned with our petty lives and freedoms.