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There's also: https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/softeng/ https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/softeng/ A lot more expensive (£25,000 all-in, part-time over four years), a reasonably

There's also: https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/softeng/ https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/softeng/ A lot more expensive (£25,000 all-in, part-time over four years), a reasonably well-known university, it's an MSc, flexible curriculum, no undergrad degree needed.

ggambetta 10y ago
"Reasonably well-known university" XD
- jumasheff 10y ago
  It's in top 50 in UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankings_of_universities_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankings_of_universities_in_th...
  - peteretep 10y ago
    And in the top 500 in World Rankings too!
  - ggambetta 10y ago
    I'm aware. I live in London. I just found the idea of calling Oxford, an almost thousand-year-old university "reasonably well know" absolutely hilarious!
    - no_wizard 10y ago
      I admit two things here. 1) Deep ignorance of British Cultural and Educational institutions. I honestly didn't equate this with "University of London is world class, you idiot" type thinking. I don't know why, I think it comes from the fact that some universities want to seem more legit, at least in the US, will attempt to sort of use a well known universities naming scheme. Like [American University](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_University) which is has a solid reputation as a learning institution and [American Public University](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Public_University_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Public_University_Sys...) which for all I can tell, attempts to ride the back of the name of American University, but is not exactly known for its quality of education. 2) Given that, I felt uncomfortable even given some research poking around I was doing stating anything too affirmatively.
movedx 10y ago
> a reasonably well-known university lol! That's sarcasm, right? :P
- theGimp 10y ago
  It's a British statement free from all sarcasm.
- no_wizard 10y ago
  Its all about scale, people. Harvard would be 'well known'. Everyone knows Harvard the world over with little exceptions. Harvey Mudd? One of the best schools in the country, probably one of the top 100 hundred in the world. I would wouldn't say its well known. However, its reasonably known within the community of grads it puts out: Engineering, Science, Computer Science. Hence...reasonably well-known. Like a litmus test of sorts, maybe. They're not linguistically congruent. I swear!
  - movedx 10y ago
    > Hence...reasonably well-known. It's nearly 1,000 years old. It's extremely well known, regardless of the field or context. It has 680 years on your country, young pup :)
niuzeta 10y ago
> reasonably welly known university I know it's partially tongue-in-cheek, but how is comp sci in Oxford? I thought all big names in engineering/compsci were MIT, CalTech, and so on. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
- peteretep 10y ago
  The Software Engineering department, via which the course is offered, has a strong faculty from functional programming and formal methods perspective. There are some interesting names here: https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/faculty.html https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/faculty.html However, from a prestige point of view, the parent university is sufficiently lofty that it's hard to go wrong; similarly, Judge is a questionable business school, but telling people you went to Cambridge will open any doors that need opening.
  - sah2ed 10y ago
    Very interesting names indeed. Some notable ones: - Tim Berners-Lee - C. A. R. Hoare
    - niuzeta 10y ago
      Tim Berners-Lee? Wow, I am happily corrected.
- nickpsecurity 10y ago
  Idk about Oxford but Cambridge is top notch. In high-assurance security, the CHERI work is one of the best: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/ctsrd/cheri/ https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/ctsrd/cheri/ A quick Google of verification work (decent test of skill) shows Oxford doing CBMC for C language (significant), a compiler for security protocols, automatic verification of firmware for Intel, work on CSP for concurrency, and contributions to Cadence Jasper for ASIC verification. So, they're not doing the best work but they're not sitting on their hands either.
bogomipz 10y ago
What am I missing £25,000 all in and no undergrad degree needed? How is it possible to be this cheap and no undergrad needed?
- peteretep 10y ago
  You have to pass the coursework to get the degree
  - bogomipz 10y ago
    Sure, and 4 hours a day is quite a commitment but for 25K this seems like a fair tradeoff to earn a CS degree from a respected institution.

ggambetta 10y ago

"Reasonably well-known university" XD

jumasheff 10y ago
It's in top 50 in UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankings_of_universities_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankings_of_universities_in_th...
- peteretep 10y ago
  And in the top 500 in World Rankings too!
- ggambetta 10y ago
  I'm aware. I live in London. I just found the idea of calling Oxford, an almost thousand-year-old university "reasonably well know" absolutely hilarious!
  - no_wizard 10y ago
    I admit two things here. 1) Deep ignorance of British Cultural and Educational institutions. I honestly didn't equate this with "University of London is world class, you idiot" type thinking. I don't know why, I think it comes from the fact that some universities want to seem more legit, at least in the US, will attempt to sort of use a well known universities naming scheme. Like [American University](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_University) which is has a solid reputation as a learning institution and [American Public University](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Public_University_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Public_University_Sys...) which for all I can tell, attempts to ride the back of the name of American University, but is not exactly known for its quality of education. 2) Given that, I felt uncomfortable even given some research poking around I was doing stating anything too affirmatively.

movedx 10y ago

> a reasonably well-known university lol! That's sarcasm, right? :P

theGimp 10y ago
It's a British statement free from all sarcasm.
no_wizard 10y ago
Its all about scale, people. Harvard would be 'well known'. Everyone knows Harvard the world over with little exceptions. Harvey Mudd? One of the best schools in the country, probably one of the top 100 hundred in the world. I would wouldn't say its well known. However, its reasonably known within the community of grads it puts out: Engineering, Science, Computer Science. Hence...reasonably well-known. Like a litmus test of sorts, maybe. They're not linguistically congruent. I swear!
- movedx 10y ago
  > Hence...reasonably well-known. It's nearly 1,000 years old. It's extremely well known, regardless of the field or context. It has 680 years on your country, young pup :)

niuzeta 10y ago

> reasonably welly known university I know it's partially tongue-in-cheek, but how is comp sci in Oxford? I thought all big names in engineering/compsci were MIT, CalTech, and so on. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

peteretep 10y ago
The Software Engineering department, via which the course is offered, has a strong faculty from functional programming and formal methods perspective. There are some interesting names here: https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/faculty.html https://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/people/faculty.html However, from a prestige point of view, the parent university is sufficiently lofty that it's hard to go wrong; similarly, Judge is a questionable business school, but telling people you went to Cambridge will open any doors that need opening.
- sah2ed 10y ago
  Very interesting names indeed. Some notable ones: - Tim Berners-Lee - C. A. R. Hoare
  - niuzeta 10y ago
    Tim Berners-Lee? Wow, I am happily corrected.
nickpsecurity 10y ago
Idk about Oxford but Cambridge is top notch. In high-assurance security, the CHERI work is one of the best: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/ctsrd/cheri/ https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/ctsrd/cheri/ A quick Google of verification work (decent test of skill) shows Oxford doing CBMC for C language (significant), a compiler for security protocols, automatic verification of firmware for Intel, work on CSP for concurrency, and contributions to Cadence Jasper for ASIC verification. So, they're not doing the best work but they're not sitting on their hands either.

bogomipz 10y ago

What am I missing £25,000 all in and no undergrad degree needed? How is it possible to be this cheap and no undergrad needed?

peteretep 10y ago
You have to pass the coursework to get the degree
- bogomipz 10y ago
  Sure, and 4 hours a day is quite a commitment but for 25K this seems like a fair tradeoff to earn a CS degree from a respected institution.