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I think we're going to see FireFox go the way of Opera in the next few years. They had a great start, and forced Microsoft to release IE7, but since then they'

I think we're going to see FireFox go the way of Opera in the next few years. They had a great start, and forced Microsoft to release IE7, but since then they've just sort of coasted along. MS came out with IE8, which turned out to be a pretty good browser. Then Google came out with Chrome, which redefined what a browser is supposed to be like. So now we have FireFox still taking 30 seconds to fire up and basically functioning like a poor version of IE8 (but with plugins), while IE9 is coming out looking exactly like a Chrome clone and Chrome is sprinting off into the distance (yet still firing up in 3 seconds). FF just seems to lose a bit more relevance every year.

DuncanIdaho 16y ago
All valid points. But I can't really see myself moving on to other browsers... Just because of 2 plugins: 1. Mouse gestures, OK - Chrome has them now but now the second one is a gamebreaker. 2. TreeTabs - I just cant browse without it anymore. I'd really like to move on to Chrome, but without TreeTabs - I'll just suffer the loading times :)
frou_dh 16y ago
Don't you give Firefox any points for its 'Awesome Bar' introduction? I'm not interested in Firefox any more myself, but I feel you're being too harsh on its progress.
robin_reala 16y ago
If your Fx takes 30 seconds to start then you have a broken Fx. Have you tried disabling all your extensions to see if one of them is causing a problem?
julio_the_squid 16y ago
What is with all the Firefox hating in here? For me, Firefox takes about 1 second to open on my Mac, 2 seconds in Linux, and 3 seconds in Windows. No idea how you see it as similar to IE 8 in any way. I agree they have a long way to go to be as slick as Chrome, but sorry, it has nothing to do with Opera - Opera never had even 1/10 of the market share that FF has now.
Rauchg 16y ago
I lost you at IE8 being a pretty good browser. I'm no IE hater, but it's pretty evident for any serious programmer that IE8 is simply a patched-up IE6.

DuncanIdaho 16y ago

All valid points. But I can't really see myself moving on to other browsers... Just because of 2 plugins: 1. Mouse gestures, OK - Chrome has them now but now the second one is a gamebreaker. 2. TreeTabs - I just cant browse without it anymore. I'd really like to move on to Chrome, but without TreeTabs - I'll just suffer the loading times :)

frou_dh 16y ago

Don't you give Firefox any points for its 'Awesome Bar' introduction? I'm not interested in Firefox any more myself, but I feel you're being too harsh on its progress.

robin_reala 16y ago

If your Fx takes 30 seconds to start then you have a broken Fx. Have you tried disabling all your extensions to see if one of them is causing a problem?

julio_the_squid 16y ago

What is with all the Firefox hating in here? For me, Firefox takes about 1 second to open on my Mac, 2 seconds in Linux, and 3 seconds in Windows. No idea how you see it as similar to IE 8 in any way. I agree they have a long way to go to be as slick as Chrome, but sorry, it has nothing to do with Opera - Opera never had even 1/10 of the market share that FF has now.

Rauchg 16y ago

I lost you at IE8 being a pretty good browser. I'm no IE hater, but it's pretty evident for any serious programmer that IE8 is simply a patched-up IE6.