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I'm honestly amazed that anybody bought "pivot to self-driving cars" as a strategy. Even if it did work and they built perfect working autonomous vehicle softwa

by amptorn 10y ago

I'm honestly amazed that anybody bought "pivot to self-driving cars" as a strategy. Even if it did work and they built perfect working autonomous vehicle software, right now, legitimately, what's the next step? Were they going to buy and operate a fleet? Have random people sign up to rent their unused cars out as taxis?

beamatronic 10y ago
Yes, and then these "private contractors" who own the car and buy the self-driving hardware box from Uber take all the risk.
- amptorn 10y ago
  They'll take that risk for one single day. Then they'll wake up the next morning with their vehicle, which they rented out to Uber for taxi rides overnight, parked in their driveway full of vomit. That's the best case scenario, where the box actually exists and works, and Uber can find a sucker.
eugeniub 10y ago
> Were they going to buy and operate a fleet? I don't see what's the problem with that.
- amptorn 10y ago
  It's not problematic at all. But it would require Uber to cease being a software company and start being, like, an actual taxi service, with physical assets and vehicles and garages and maintenance. The whole reason Uber is competitive with actual taxi services is that those costs are all offloaded to the poor saps who drive for them.
  - netsharc 10y ago
    That sort of thing is outsourcable... Just work with a manufacturer or a car rental company, they'd do the maintenance, and Uber would do the stolen, allegedly, software.
- kirykl 10y ago
  Uber no longer passes the depreciating asset liability on to vehicle owners
  - mulmen 10y ago
    But they also don't have to pay the drivers at all. It's a pivot from making the drivers foot the bill but its not obviously untenable as a business model. I think the part that should raise eyebrows is Uber's claim they can actually build the cars before they run out of money.
- jonathansorum 10y ago
  They will have to change their entire organization, structure and how they do business, to accommodate this. It's as "easy" as copying Apple's vertically integrated model - many have tried...

by amptorn 10y ago

beamatronic 10y ago

Yes, and then these "private contractors" who own the car and buy the self-driving hardware box from Uber take all the risk.

amptorn 10y ago
They'll take that risk for one single day. Then they'll wake up the next morning with their vehicle, which they rented out to Uber for taxi rides overnight, parked in their driveway full of vomit. That's the best case scenario, where the box actually exists and works, and Uber can find a sucker.

eugeniub 10y ago

> Were they going to buy and operate a fleet? I don't see what's the problem with that.

amptorn 10y ago
It's not problematic at all. But it would require Uber to cease being a software company and start being, like, an actual taxi service, with physical assets and vehicles and garages and maintenance. The whole reason Uber is competitive with actual taxi services is that those costs are all offloaded to the poor saps who drive for them.
- netsharc 10y ago
  That sort of thing is outsourcable... Just work with a manufacturer or a car rental company, they'd do the maintenance, and Uber would do the stolen, allegedly, software.
kirykl 10y ago
Uber no longer passes the depreciating asset liability on to vehicle owners
- mulmen 10y ago
  But they also don't have to pay the drivers at all. It's a pivot from making the drivers foot the bill but its not obviously untenable as a business model. I think the part that should raise eyebrows is Uber's claim they can actually build the cars before they run out of money.
jonathansorum 10y ago
They will have to change their entire organization, structure and how they do business, to accommodate this. It's as "easy" as copying Apple's vertically integrated model - many have tried...