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That zoning map infuriates me. All these residential neighborhoods right along the Muni rail zoned to be single-family houses. I used to take the N-Judah to wor

by ng12 10y ago

That zoning map infuriates me. All these residential neighborhoods right along the Muni rail zoned to be single-family houses. I used to take the N-Judah to work downtown every day and the trains were at most half-full. The infrastructure is there, just build something already.

zorpner 10y ago
I used to take the N-Judah to work downtown every day and the trains were at most half-full. How long ago? The N-Judah trains are packed like sardines inbound in the morning and outbound in the evening. They've started running empty trains out to Hillway because typically by UCSF the inbound trains are completely full. More housing in the Sunset would absolutely require improved transit.
- baddox 10y ago
  In 2011 I took the N every weekday from 30th to Montgomery around 9-9:30am and back around 6-8pm and sardines are the perfect simile.
gojomo 10y ago
Nowadays during key commute hours, the N-Judah is quite a bit more crowded – often to shoulder-to-shoulder standing-room-only, or wait-for-the-next-train-because-there's-no-more-room, levels. MUNI has added extra shuttle trains that just run the busiest part of the line (https://www.hoodline.com/2016/09/new-n-judah-shuttles-aim-to-aid-morning-commute https://www.hoodline.com/2016/09/new-n-judah-shuttles-aim-to...), and the N-Judah will be the 1st line to get 3-car trains (https://www.hoodline.com/2017/02/n-judah-will-be-first-line-to-receive-new-3-car-muni-trains https://www.hoodline.com/2017/02/n-judah-will-be-first-line-...). But yes, they could run even more. And there should be far denser housing near dedicated rail lines. I'd go so far as to say all lots, statewide, that are within a 5 minute walk of a rail station should have no height or housing-type restrictions other than those required for earthquake safety. (And yes, this goes for the commuter suburbs, too. If you get a BART station, you need to accept a bunch more housing – or the trains should skip that stop.)

by ng12 10y ago

zorpner 10y ago

I used to take the N-Judah to work downtown every day and the trains were at most half-full. How long ago? The N-Judah trains are packed like sardines inbound in the morning and outbound in the evening. They've started running empty trains out to Hillway because typically by UCSF the inbound trains are completely full. More housing in the Sunset would absolutely require improved transit.

baddox 10y ago
In 2011 I took the N every weekday from 30th to Montgomery around 9-9:30am and back around 6-8pm and sardines are the perfect simile.

gojomo 10y ago

Nowadays during key commute hours, the N-Judah is quite a bit more crowded – often to shoulder-to-shoulder standing-room-only, or wait-for-the-next-train-because-there's-no-more-room, levels. MUNI has added extra shuttle trains that just run the busiest part of the line (https://www.hoodline.com/2016/09/new-n-judah-shuttles-aim-to-aid-morning-commute https://www.hoodline.com/2016/09/new-n-judah-shuttles-aim-to...), and the N-Judah will be the 1st line to get 3-car trains (https://www.hoodline.com/2017/02/n-judah-will-be-first-line-to-receive-new-3-car-muni-trains https://www.hoodline.com/2017/02/n-judah-will-be-first-line-...). But yes, they could run even more. And there should be far denser housing near dedicated rail lines. I'd go so far as to say all lots, statewide, that are within a 5 minute walk of a rail station should have no height or housing-type restrictions other than those required for earthquake safety. (And yes, this goes for the commuter suburbs, too. If you get a BART station, you need to accept a bunch more housing – or the trains should skip that stop.)