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I never finished university, and I started a bunch of companies. How do you sort out people on a "promising"/"not promising" scale for doing good things for the

I never finished university, and I started a bunch of companies. How do you sort out people on a "promising"/"not promising" scale for doing good things for the economy?

stagbeetle 10y ago
You don't and you're not sorted for that sort of thing. As a fellow dropout, I think you just took this chance to show-off (like many dropouts/unconventionally successful do).
- bjelkeman-again 10y ago
  It wasn't my intention, but maybe it was subconscious. If I wanted to show off, then I would have talked about success.
hackinthebochs 10y ago
Having zero false negatives isn't a requirement
xienze 10y ago
> How do you sort out people on a "promising"/"not promising" scale for doing good things for the economy? Ask Australia? But at a very basic level: * Criminal background -> sorry * No high school-equivalent education -> sorry * Crippling, expensive disease -> sorry Those are just three basic things that let you know straight away that this person has little chance to do anything but consume resources.
- dublinben 10y ago
  Under your simple scale you would exclude Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama, and Stephen Hawking, respectively. I think they've all been supremely wasteful 'consumers of resources.'
  - defen 10y ago
    You get an exemption from the rules if you are a Nobel Peace prize winner or were ever the Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge.
  - xienze 10y ago
    And you think of the millions of people wanting to get in here they're all world-renowned physicists or spiritual leaders? We would long run out of money supporting the hordes of cancer-stricken dirt farmers clamoring to get in here before the next Stephen Hawking shows up.
  - true_religion 10y ago
    Exceptions all. The point of any laws is not to catch the exceptions, but to state the rule for the average. There's no way a standard policy is going to somehow separate the Stephen Hawkings from the general population before they have actually accomplished anything of note. So your policy can either be cautious, or it can be over liberal.
  - venomsnake 10y ago
    And only one of those three is someone I will be happy to have in my country. Mandela and the Lama are next to useless.
  - mahyarm 10y ago
    The steven hawking outliers can apply under the O-1 visa type schemes, which he would definitely pass. A points scheme doesn't have to be the only scheme.

I never finished university, and I started a bunch of companies. How do you sort out people on a "promising"/"not promising" scale for doing good things for the economy?

stagbeetle 10y ago

You don't and you're not sorted for that sort of thing. As a fellow dropout, I think you just took this chance to show-off (like many dropouts/unconventionally successful do).

bjelkeman-again 10y ago
It wasn't my intention, but maybe it was subconscious. If I wanted to show off, then I would have talked about success.

hackinthebochs 10y ago

Having zero false negatives isn't a requirement

xienze 10y ago

> How do you sort out people on a "promising"/"not promising" scale for doing good things for the economy? Ask Australia? But at a very basic level: * Criminal background -> sorry * No high school-equivalent education -> sorry * Crippling, expensive disease -> sorry Those are just three basic things that let you know straight away that this person has little chance to do anything but consume resources.

dublinben 10y ago
Under your simple scale you would exclude Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama, and Stephen Hawking, respectively. I think they've all been supremely wasteful 'consumers of resources.'
- defen 10y ago
  You get an exemption from the rules if you are a Nobel Peace prize winner or were ever the Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge.
- xienze 10y ago
  And you think of the millions of people wanting to get in here they're all world-renowned physicists or spiritual leaders? We would long run out of money supporting the hordes of cancer-stricken dirt farmers clamoring to get in here before the next Stephen Hawking shows up.
- true_religion 10y ago
  Exceptions all. The point of any laws is not to catch the exceptions, but to state the rule for the average. There's no way a standard policy is going to somehow separate the Stephen Hawkings from the general population before they have actually accomplished anything of note. So your policy can either be cautious, or it can be over liberal.
- venomsnake 10y ago
  And only one of those three is someone I will be happy to have in my country. Mandela and the Lama are next to useless.
- mahyarm 10y ago
  The steven hawking outliers can apply under the O-1 visa type schemes, which he would definitely pass. A points scheme doesn't have to be the only scheme.