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Interesting, I think my experience is the reverse of yours: Apple - I swore off apple after my terrible experience with the iPhone 1. I've never bought a produ

Interesting, I think my experience is the reverse of yours: Apple - I swore off apple after my terrible experience with the iPhone 1. I've never bought a product of theirs since. My only interaction with Apple products at all is asking users of my software to confirm that it works on OSX. Google - I have an android phone, and I use gmail, that's about it? I mainly use it gmail due to inertia. I use android because it's the only real alternative to Apple's ecosystem. However android isn't that tied to google, e.g. I'd be happy switching to https://copperhead.co/android/ https://copperhead.co/android/ if my phone supported it. Amazon - I haven't bought anything from amazon in ages. I don't use AWS. Facebook - Facebook chat is the main way I keep in contact with non-tech friends. It's the only service where: 1. everyone has an account. 2. has a good desktop experience. 3. has a good mobile experience. I occasionally use facebook events. I don't even look at my "newsfeed".... Microsoft - I don't interact with any microsoft products. I guess my work's email server is exchange? I know I'm not the typical end user, but I don't see any of the companies having real utility except facebook.

fuzzybeard 10y ago
> I don't use AWS. A big chunk of the web does, so you're using it indirectly.
wheelerwj 10y ago
i have to ask... what terrible experience did you have the original iphone? it was an amazing phone for its time... by any standard. I still have mine and it still works... also i think its pretty short sighted to say android isn't really tied in with google. that phone sends an insane amount of data back to google, right down to the keys you press on your keyboard.
- Nullabillity 10y ago
  > also i think its pretty short sighted to say android isn't really tied in with google. that phone sends an insane amount of data back to google, right down to the keys you press on your keyboard. Sounds like you're confusing Android/AOSP with GApps.
  - wheelerwj 10y ago
    it sounds like you aren't...
psyc 10y ago
So... what do you use to search the web?
- daurnimator 10y ago
  duckduckgo
- ionised 10y ago
  One of the many other search engines available?
Razengan 10y ago
You swore off an entire company over the first iteration of category-defining product? Did you go back to dumb/feature phones? When did you start using Android, and with which phone? > I use android because it's the only real alternative to Apple's ecosystem. Apple did not even have much of an "ecosystem" at the time of the first iPhone, and if you didn't use iPhones since 2007, which experience are you comparing Android with?
- daurnimator 10y ago
  > Did you go back to dumb/feature phones? Yes for a little while: I was happier with my Sagem myx6 + my Sharp Zaurus C3200. > When did you start using Android, and with which phone? With the HTC Magic. > Apple did not even have much of an "ecosystem" at the time of the first iPhone It seemed to have a more active one than now! I remember when Cydia first came out and hundred of applications got ported each day. > if you didn't use iPhones since 2007 I have seen iphones since: friends, family and coworkers have them. I've been extremely unimpressed in the software (though I don't mind the hardware).

fuzzybeard 10y ago

> I don't use AWS. A big chunk of the web does, so you're using it indirectly.

wheelerwj 10y ago

i have to ask... what terrible experience did you have the original iphone? it was an amazing phone for its time... by any standard. I still have mine and it still works... also i think its pretty short sighted to say android isn't really tied in with google. that phone sends an insane amount of data back to google, right down to the keys you press on your keyboard.

Nullabillity 10y ago
> also i think its pretty short sighted to say android isn't really tied in with google. that phone sends an insane amount of data back to google, right down to the keys you press on your keyboard. Sounds like you're confusing Android/AOSP with GApps.
- wheelerwj 10y ago
  it sounds like you aren't...

psyc 10y ago

So... what do you use to search the web?

daurnimator 10y ago
duckduckgo
ionised 10y ago
One of the many other search engines available?

Razengan 10y ago

You swore off an entire company over the first iteration of category-defining product? Did you go back to dumb/feature phones? When did you start using Android, and with which phone? > I use android because it's the only real alternative to Apple's ecosystem. Apple did not even have much of an "ecosystem" at the time of the first iPhone, and if you didn't use iPhones since 2007, which experience are you comparing Android with?

daurnimator 10y ago
> Did you go back to dumb/feature phones? Yes for a little while: I was happier with my Sagem myx6 + my Sharp Zaurus C3200. > When did you start using Android, and with which phone? With the HTC Magic. > Apple did not even have much of an "ecosystem" at the time of the first iPhone It seemed to have a more active one than now! I remember when Cydia first came out and hundred of applications got ported each day. > if you didn't use iPhones since 2007 I have seen iphones since: friends, family and coworkers have them. I've been extremely unimpressed in the software (though I don't mind the hardware).