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Because capital keeps telling the young developers that they’re smarter/quicker/more adaptable than the older ones. It's a seductive lie.

by muglug 10y ago

cwyers 10y ago
All the other industries have capital. Why doesn't capital tell the younger workers in all those other industries the same seductive lie?
- shiven 10y ago
  Maturity. Not every industry can sustain a "move fast and break things" mentality. Software is fairly young in terms of capital investment growth. Wait till it becomes as boring and grave as manufacturing.
- majormajor 10y ago
  Short time frames and code quality being less visible to customers than construction or build quality of physical goods. It's a lot easier to build a (really shitty underneath the hood) app without experience than to design or build an airplane without experience. In most cases you can dump a good chunk of your stake for a massive profit before the poor infrastructure and maintenance costs become an issue (the Twitter "fail whale" and rewrites are the outlier here, I think, where the scale came much faster than the payoffs).
Frondo 10y ago
Yeah, no kidding. Think of how every time unionization comes up here, you'll see dozens of people chiming in with "but we're really well-paid already!" or "I can negotiate for myself!" or whatever. Never even thinking about how much better they could be paid if they worked together to demand a larger slice of that sweet, sweet tech pie. It's crab bucket is what it is.
analognoise 10y ago
It isn't just a lie - they're more impressionable. Tell them they're smart, they're critical! and then work them to the bone until you can replace them with the next batch of the bright-eyed and bushy tailed.
- alphonsegaston 10y ago
  Which is why technology churn and cultivating ageism are so useful. It's a fabulous cover for the con. That person didn't get death marched into burning out in his closet sized apartment. He turned 30 and couldn't hack React. Hey, check out this Ayn Rand novel...
  - lacampbell 10y ago
    What does anything you have written have to do with Ayn Rand novels?

Because capital keeps telling the young developers that they’re smarter/quicker/more adaptable than the older ones. It's a seductive lie.

by muglug 10y ago

Because capital keeps telling the young developers that they’re smarter/quicker/more adaptable than the older ones. It's a seductive lie.

cwyers 10y ago

All the other industries have capital. Why doesn't capital tell the younger workers in all those other industries the same seductive lie?

shiven 10y ago
Maturity. Not every industry can sustain a "move fast and break things" mentality. Software is fairly young in terms of capital investment growth. Wait till it becomes as boring and grave as manufacturing.
majormajor 10y ago
Short time frames and code quality being less visible to customers than construction or build quality of physical goods. It's a lot easier to build a (really shitty underneath the hood) app without experience than to design or build an airplane without experience. In most cases you can dump a good chunk of your stake for a massive profit before the poor infrastructure and maintenance costs become an issue (the Twitter "fail whale" and rewrites are the outlier here, I think, where the scale came much faster than the payoffs).

Frondo 10y ago

Yeah, no kidding. Think of how every time unionization comes up here, you'll see dozens of people chiming in with "but we're really well-paid already!" or "I can negotiate for myself!" or whatever. Never even thinking about how much better they could be paid if they worked together to demand a larger slice of that sweet, sweet tech pie. It's crab bucket is what it is.

analognoise 10y ago

It isn't just a lie - they're more impressionable. Tell them they're smart, they're critical! and then work them to the bone until you can replace them with the next batch of the bright-eyed and bushy tailed.

alphonsegaston 10y ago
Which is why technology churn and cultivating ageism are so useful. It's a fabulous cover for the con. That person didn't get death marched into burning out in his closet sized apartment. He turned 30 and couldn't hack React. Hey, check out this Ayn Rand novel...
- lacampbell 10y ago
  What does anything you have written have to do with Ayn Rand novels?