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(I'm a seed-stage VC, but as a caveat I'm not an expert when it comes to cap tables.) He's an example of where having many notes can hurt founders: - Raise $2
by lpolovets 10y ago
(I'm a seed-stage VC, but as a caveat I'm not an expert when it comes to cap tables.)
He's an example of where having many notes can hurt founders:
- Raise $2m at an $8m cap, 15% discount.
- Raise $2m at an $18m cap, 15% discount.
- Raise $2m at a $28m cap, 15% discount.
- Sell 20% of company for $X in the Series A.
Caps are "sort of" like pre-money valuations, so the founder might expect that their dilution from the 3 notes is approximately 2/10 + 2/20 + 2/30 = 36.7%
Here's what actually happens in 4 different scenarios:
1) Raise $10m at a $40m pre. Dilution from the notes is 20.0 + 8.9 + 5.7 = 34.6%
2) Raise $7.5m at a $30m pre. Dilution from the notes is 20.0 + 8.9 + 6.3 = 35.2%
3) Raise $5.0m at a $20m pre. Dilution from the notes is 20.0 + 9.4 + 9.4 = 38.8%
4) Raise $4.0m at a $16m pre. Dilution from the notes is 20.0 + 11.8 + 11.8 = 43.6%
For the founder, #1 and #2 are better than expected, #3 and #4 are worse. It's not hard to get into situation #3 or #4 if you raise money from strategic investors or angels at high caps, and then Series A investors drive your price down below your most recent caps because that's where the market is. The 9% dilution difference between the first and last scenarios is fairly dramatic. When you combine that with the 20% dilution from the Series A, it's the difference between founders and employees having ~45% of the company vs ~36% of the company.
(Source of calculations: https://captable.io/company/8/convertible-notes/calculator https://captable.io/company/8/convertible-notes/calculator)
- fredwilson 10y agoThanks for laying all of this out. I guess we will have to do more of this to get this crew here to understand what I'm trying to explain
- genericpseudo 10y agoIsn't that functionally just a down round?
- lpolovets 10y agoYes. But based on my understanding of conversion mechanics, the anti-dilution terms in priced seed rounds are often "weighted average" (which are more founder friendly) while in SAFEs and notes they are closer to "full ratchet" (which are founder unfriendly). An example of the two types of anti-dilution provisions is worked out at https://www.strictlybusinesslawblog.com/2014/03/08/venture-capital-term-sheet-negotiation-part-7-anti-dilution-provisions/ https://www.strictlybusinesslawblog.com/2014/03/08/venture-c...