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So his claim that the us has a higher standard of living is based on it having a higher AIC. But does this take into account that countries with higher taxation

So his claim that the us has a higher standard of living is based on it having a higher AIC. But does this take into account that countries with higher taxation and hence public expenditure could reduce the need for households to spend money on public goods/services?

yummyfajitas 10y ago
Yes it does. This is explained in the fifth paragraph, pretty close to the top of the article. (Unfortunately that's an embedded image of text, so I can't quote it. But here's a link: https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/screenshot_893.png https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/s... )
tcbawo 10y ago
I find it odd to compare the nations of Europe individually, but taking the United States as a whole. Availability of subnational metrics probably makes this difficult, but averaging West Virginia and California is probably distortive.
- Spooky23 10y ago
  It is odd and would be a damning set of metrics. People actually migrate away from the Deep South because their spin on Medicaid is garbage and there's no providers.
- rcafdm 10y ago
  1) I was responding in large part to cross-country plots and regressions, e.g., https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/above-expected-500x406-1.jpg https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/a... 2) It's not sensible to run regressions when observations consist of US and EU-(14|28) alone. Small n and these all of these common EU aggregations would be MUCH poorer than the US. 3) US states have a fiscal, political, legal, social, and other union much beyond that of EU member states in the EU. I would very much anticipate larger spillover effects between US states than between EU member states for this reason (as in, MS's standard of care will be much more like MA's than Slovakia will be like Norway), not to mention gains from greater economic union, transfers, and the like. 3) Perfectly comparable data do not exist to make direct comparisons across different levels of analysis feasible. 4) I actually did run some regressions on US states and found: (i) states vary quite substantially in their expenditure levels and (ii) consumption (PCE) to be an exceptionally stronger predictor than GDP, personal income, and some other economic indicators. DC spends more than twice as much as Utah (and if you don't like DC as an observations, similar results are found for MA) https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/rcafdm_39_hce_by_pce_by_state.png https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/r... Even so, even if I were to try to equate these measures, I would not except the slope within countries like this to match the cross country slope due to some of the aforementioned spillovers. 5) I actually did analyze outcomes between states and even counties. https://randomcriticalanalysis.wordpress.com/2016/11/06/us-life-expectancy-is-below-naive-expectations-mostly-because-it-economically-outperforms/ https://randomcriticalanalysis.wordpress.com/2016/11/06/us-l... 6) Tho the US has greater geographic heterogeneity in outcomes than most of individual EU countries due to its size, greater historic diversity, and more, it's worth pointing out that health systems do not produce equal outcomes within countries. As I pointed out in the above link, the northern areas of England and southern parts of Scotland perform quite terribly. https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/screenshot_1170.png https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/s... These regions, btw, are where a large fraction of people in the US came from (especially those that settled in and around Appalachia). There is a whole literature indicating that "deep history" predicts economic and social outcomes many centuries later.....

yummyfajitas 10y ago

Yes it does. This is explained in the fifth paragraph, pretty close to the top of the article. (Unfortunately that's an embedded image of text, so I can't quote it. But here's a link: https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/screenshot_893.png https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/s... )

tcbawo 10y ago

I find it odd to compare the nations of Europe individually, but taking the United States as a whole. Availability of subnational metrics probably makes this difficult, but averaging West Virginia and California is probably distortive.

Spooky23 10y ago
It is odd and would be a damning set of metrics. People actually migrate away from the Deep South because their spin on Medicaid is garbage and there's no providers.
rcafdm 10y ago
1) I was responding in large part to cross-country plots and regressions, e.g., https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/above-expected-500x406-1.jpg https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/a... 2) It's not sensible to run regressions when observations consist of US and EU-(14|28) alone. Small n and these all of these common EU aggregations would be MUCH poorer than the US. 3) US states have a fiscal, political, legal, social, and other union much beyond that of EU member states in the EU. I would very much anticipate larger spillover effects between US states than between EU member states for this reason (as in, MS's standard of care will be much more like MA's than Slovakia will be like Norway), not to mention gains from greater economic union, transfers, and the like. 3) Perfectly comparable data do not exist to make direct comparisons across different levels of analysis feasible. 4) I actually did run some regressions on US states and found: (i) states vary quite substantially in their expenditure levels and (ii) consumption (PCE) to be an exceptionally stronger predictor than GDP, personal income, and some other economic indicators. DC spends more than twice as much as Utah (and if you don't like DC as an observations, similar results are found for MA) https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/rcafdm_39_hce_by_pce_by_state.png https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/r... Even so, even if I were to try to equate these measures, I would not except the slope within countries like this to match the cross country slope due to some of the aforementioned spillovers. 5) I actually did analyze outcomes between states and even counties. https://randomcriticalanalysis.wordpress.com/2016/11/06/us-life-expectancy-is-below-naive-expectations-mostly-because-it-economically-outperforms/ https://randomcriticalanalysis.wordpress.com/2016/11/06/us-l... 6) Tho the US has greater geographic heterogeneity in outcomes than most of individual EU countries due to its size, greater historic diversity, and more, it's worth pointing out that health systems do not produce equal outcomes within countries. As I pointed out in the above link, the northern areas of England and southern parts of Scotland perform quite terribly. https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/screenshot_1170.png https://randomcriticalanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/s... These regions, btw, are where a large fraction of people in the US came from (especially those that settled in and around Appalachia). There is a whole literature indicating that "deep history" predicts economic and social outcomes many centuries later.....