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> no valid reason to believe that you'll be able to control that process People aren't interested in small-scale organizing for specific purposes because stron
by pdkl95 10y ago
> no valid reason to believe that you'll be able to control that process
People aren't interested in small-scale organizing for specific purposes because strong, traditional unions are too popular? Why aren't the same people you claim will "control [the] process" making a union now?
Yes, just like every other type of organization, a union - or business - can evolve beyond it's original purpose. There are no guarantees in most collective actions. However, arguments that assume an inevitable strong union in industries where unions are very unpopular do not seem to be based in reality.
> you must have a better reason to convince them why it won't be one
The tech industry has been very successful at inventing new types of organizations over the last several decades. The "gig economy" and Bitcoin/Etherium are obvious examples. Silicon Valley is popular because of how easy it is to invent new businesses. Sometimes this creativity extends to new ways to fund startups. A lot of the tech itself revolves around new types of social interaction.
I find it very hard to believe that unions - or collective bargaining in general - are somehow immune from "disruption" and creative reinterpretation.
- icebraining 10y agoLook, we weren't discussing whether unions were good or bad; we were discussing why people don't believe it's in their best interest to form or join one. I'm telling you why I think you are mistaken about their motivations, not that you are mistaken in your belief that a union would in fact be a positive thing for tech workers.