Oh give me a break. People who build things (whether in the physical world or not) are engineers. Anyone who has worked at a serious software company knows it's

Oh give me a break. People who build things (whether in the physical world or not) are engineers. Anyone who has worked at a serious software company knows it's an engineering profession. A more constructive approach would be to say "hey, here are some things engineers have learned over the years; perhaps some of them would be useful to those who build software for a living?"