I'm not suggesting that anyone give up, I was suggesting that the EFF must feel despair in the context of their efforts. I would argue that there is more need t

I'm not suggesting that anyone give up, I was suggesting that the EFF must feel despair in the context of their efforts. I would argue that there is more need than ever to fight, but that fight hasn't really materialized yet. Outside of places like HN, so few people appreciate that there even is a fight, and fewer care. That may change, but until it does, the best you can do is educate people.