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After I discovered extensions/addons for vim-like control of browsers few years ago, I've completely changed how I browse the web. I rarely even use the mouse a

by Jerry2 10y ago

After I discovered extensions/addons for vim-like control of browsers few years ago, I've completely changed how I browse the web. I rarely even use the mouse anymore. Only when I want to save an image or save a file (from a misconfigured server that doesn't auto-download) do I still use a mouse. For everything else, you simply don't need a mouse at all. My favorites: vimari - Safari port of vimium: https://guyht.github.io/vimari/ https://guyht.github.io/vimari/ vimium for Chromium: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vimium/dbepggeogbaibhgnhhndojpepiihcmeb?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vimium/dbepggeogba... VimFX for FF: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimfx/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimfx/

maaaats 10y ago
Do they help navigate the dev tools? The web pages I'm developing are all UU- and keyboard-friendly, which is great when I test them. But I'm having a hard time not reaching for the mouse because I need to use the devtools.
lqdc13 10y ago
I've used the vimium for chrome, vimfx for firefox and they both have similar problems: 1) Impossible to navigate some sites 2) Slows down the browser to a crawl over time Generally, not a usable long-term solution
- icebraining 10y ago
  I use Vimperator, never noticed any slowdown effect. Why would that even happen? It's true that some sites are harder to navigate, though.
  - knight17 10y ago
    Vimperator is the king among Vim-like keyboard shortcut enabler extensions in browsers, sadly it may not work in the future versions of Firefox because Firefox is transitioning from highly free but less safe/performing XUL based extensions to a safer but limited WebExtension model. It is very fast and smooth with lots of features.
    - m-j-fox 10y ago
      RIP vimperator :(
  - lqdc13 10y ago
    I used vimperator and experienced crazy slowdown on Firefox in both OSX and Ubuntu. This happens after you browse for a while. Wasn't sure why initially. Things improved dramatically after reinstalling the addon. But I had to do it frequently so it wasn't worth it. I think it's because things are saved in history for a long time or history chain of sites in a tab is very long. Edit: Only extension that is vim-like that hasn't let me down is cvim for chromium/chrome.
metaobject 10y ago
I'd love to use emacs key bindings to browse the web. Anyone have good suggestions?
- Jerry2 10y ago
  If you use Firefox, try Firemacs [1]. I don't know if there's something similar for Chromium. [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/firemacs/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/firemacs/
- alasarmas 10y ago
  You might consider Conkeror. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conkeror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conkeror
techwizrd 10y ago
I use VimFX and Vimium daily. They're wonderful addons, and I browsing would be much more unpleasant without them.
OJFord 10y ago
I'd heard about these before, but never tried them since I assumed there would be some case in which they didn't work, and it would be enough to be a deal-breaker. But after reading this sub-thread, I decided to give it ago, and I've been absolutely blown away, such a pleasurable experience! I've started using Feedbin for my RSS feeds lately, which makes great use of vim-bindings, and I've enjoyed using that site more than any other partly for that reason. Now I get that on every site - and as a bonus, adding an exception (so that I could continue using Feedbin's bindings) was easy. The only thing that seems to be missing is a way to edit large text fields (like this one) in vim-mode. Though I understand there are separate plugins people swear by for that, so perhaps they work in conjunction, I'll have to explore that next.
urza 10y ago
I wish there was something like Vimium for Windows 10. I am trying to use hotkeys whenever I can, but some applications are expecting you to use mouse. In such situations I would give gold to be able to quickly select and click elements on screen by keyboard.

by Jerry2 10y ago

maaaats 10y ago

Do they help navigate the dev tools? The web pages I'm developing are all UU- and keyboard-friendly, which is great when I test them. But I'm having a hard time not reaching for the mouse because I need to use the devtools.

lqdc13 10y ago

I've used the vimium for chrome, vimfx for firefox and they both have similar problems: 1) Impossible to navigate some sites 2) Slows down the browser to a crawl over time Generally, not a usable long-term solution

icebraining 10y ago
I use Vimperator, never noticed any slowdown effect. Why would that even happen? It's true that some sites are harder to navigate, though.
- knight17 10y ago
  Vimperator is the king among Vim-like keyboard shortcut enabler extensions in browsers, sadly it may not work in the future versions of Firefox because Firefox is transitioning from highly free but less safe/performing XUL based extensions to a safer but limited WebExtension model. It is very fast and smooth with lots of features.
  - m-j-fox 10y ago
    RIP vimperator :(
- lqdc13 10y ago
  I used vimperator and experienced crazy slowdown on Firefox in both OSX and Ubuntu. This happens after you browse for a while. Wasn't sure why initially. Things improved dramatically after reinstalling the addon. But I had to do it frequently so it wasn't worth it. I think it's because things are saved in history for a long time or history chain of sites in a tab is very long. Edit: Only extension that is vim-like that hasn't let me down is cvim for chromium/chrome.

metaobject 10y ago

I'd love to use emacs key bindings to browse the web. Anyone have good suggestions?

Jerry2 10y ago
If you use Firefox, try Firemacs [1]. I don't know if there's something similar for Chromium. [1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/firemacs/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/firemacs/
alasarmas 10y ago
You might consider Conkeror. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conkeror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conkeror

techwizrd 10y ago

I use VimFX and Vimium daily. They're wonderful addons, and I browsing would be much more unpleasant without them.

OJFord 10y ago

I'd heard about these before, but never tried them since I assumed there would be some case in which they didn't work, and it would be enough to be a deal-breaker. But after reading this sub-thread, I decided to give it ago, and I've been absolutely blown away, such a pleasurable experience! I've started using Feedbin for my RSS feeds lately, which makes great use of vim-bindings, and I've enjoyed using that site more than any other partly for that reason. Now I get that on every site - and as a bonus, adding an exception (so that I could continue using Feedbin's bindings) was easy. The only thing that seems to be missing is a way to edit large text fields (like this one) in vim-mode. Though I understand there are separate plugins people swear by for that, so perhaps they work in conjunction, I'll have to explore that next.

urza 10y ago

I wish there was something like Vimium for Windows 10. I am trying to use hotkeys whenever I can, but some applications are expecting you to use mouse. In such situations I would give gold to be able to quickly select and click elements on screen by keyboard.