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The "half-maximized" feature sounds great, and one of the things that I feel like no one has right, still. Windows has actually gotten pretty good, surprisingly

The "half-maximized" feature sounds great, and one of the things that I feel like no one has right, still. Windows has actually gotten pretty good, surprisingly (drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen). Gnome is clumsier than I'd like. I really would love a window manager that handles tiling well, but doesn't require complete buy-in to a fully tiled concept. I doubt I'll be going back to Window Maker for this (I used it up until switching briefly to Enlightenment and then on to various Gnome standard window managers....Sawfish, and some others), but it seems like it's reasonably well thought out implementation. Also, I find it really funny when a project has been around for decades, and has been regarded as stable for nearly as long, and still hasn't done a 1.0 release.

tezza 10y ago
use Divvy ( Mac, Windows ) You get granular ad-hoc tiling that fits the need you have when you have it. http://mizage.com/divvy/ http://mizage.com/divvy/
- m-j-fox 10y ago
  The video looks pretty sweet. Expensive though.
- i336_ 10y ago
  If this let you specify the grid settings using the keyboard instead of requiring me to use the mouse, I'd love it. Oh, and I'm on Linux, as well...
marricks 10y ago
Moom for Mac is great with near perfect functionality. Hover over the "Fullscreen" button and you can select by a customizable grid for size and placement. Also quick half sized options.
- LeoPanthera 10y ago
  I deeply love Moom because you can set it up to be tiled-with-gaps, which is ideal if you're still occasionally using your mouse to move stuff around.
  - X86BSD 10y ago
    Argh! Yet another incredible piece of software I never heard of until stumbling across the posts here in a HN thread. Why is finding these great pieces of software so hard! Thanks for the tip on it!
  - kitsunesoba 10y ago
    Another fan here. There are other small utilities that provide the same functionality, but Moom is best to me because it doesn't hijack screen edges/corners, preventing accidental maximizing and playing more nicely with a workflow with an even mix of maximized and odd-sized windows.
wernercd 10y ago
> Windows has actually gotten pretty good, surprisingly (drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen) Holy shit on a shingle... how did I not know about this magic incantation!
- AceJohnny2 10y ago
  Even better then: try the Win key + arrow keys.
  - bastijn 10y ago
    And shift+win+arrows to kick it over your multiple monitors. With those two features now in Windows (for a while) I could finally drop my autohotkey windowing script.
  - wernercd 10y ago
    I knew about and use the hell out of the Win+Arrow combo... but I didn't know you could drag to corners/sides to get the same effect. Always nice to have alternatives - and I'm always dragging stuff around to different windows so it'll be nice to not have to drag, drop and then window key stuff.
  - to3m 10y ago
    I'm going to plug my dispswitch program (https://github.com/tom-seddon/dispswitch https://github.com/tom-seddon/dispswitch - Windows only. You run it from a hotkey manager such as AutoHotKey). It does a better job of preserving monitor-relative size and position when you've got monitors with work rects of different sizes. For tiling windows, try align_window3 (https://github.com/tom-seddon/align_window3 https://github.com/tom-seddon/align_window3 - again, it's for Windows, and use AutoHotKey). It gives you more portrait-friendly options than the Windows default stuff.
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hashhar 10y ago
On that last statement of yours, keep this as a rule of thumb: If an API, 1.0 means stable. If an application, 1.0 means fully featured (as dictated by the author or community).
- hashhar 10y ago
  Why the downvote?
  - dredmorbius 10y ago
    No idea, but in general, there are no general rules for version numbers.
    - hashhar 10y ago
      Well, of course. It's just a common pattern that I've observed (mostly in the npm packages and linux cli tools).
llukas 10y ago
KDE has drag to corner to get quarter screen window for a long time.
- scorpioxy 10y ago
  I've been a kde user for a couple of years now and I had no idea this existed...
  - zeotroph 10y ago
    Unfortunately in Window Maker the left/right edges of the screen move a window to another virtual desktop (by default), so this would have to be limited to the top or bottom edges which do not seem to have an action tied to them so far.
  - llukas 10y ago
    There is also drag to edge to get half of the screen. (only for left/right edges)
    - sho_hn 10y ago
      And you can left click and middle click the maximize button on a window title bar to maximize it on the vertical and horizontal axises only. Combined with edge snapping making it easy to move a window on only one axis at that point, you can set up a few column tiles that way very easily. Funny memory: I've been a KDE developer for 12 or 13 years. I think one of my first patches ever was a fix for the window manager to restore to correct window geometry when cancelling a partially maximized state using the restore action. A friend of mine was using the above feature to set up tiled text editors and I wanted to fix it for him.
simongr3dal 10y ago
Personally I find Magnet[1] (for Mac) to be wonderful, it moves your windows around to halves, thirds, and two-thirds presets with either dragging or keyboard shortcuts. [1]: http://magnet.crowdcafe.com http://magnet.crowdcafe.com
- m-j-fox 10y ago
  That looks great. I love that it supports thirds.
Zardoz84 10y ago
KDE had it many years ago.
Elv13 10y ago
AwesomeWM is both a tiling and floating WM. It has this feature (including snap to corner for 1/4). Awesome is a window manager framework allowing its users to be pretty much anything they want. (disclaimer, I am a contributor)
- digi_owl 10y ago
  And it is default WM on Gobolinux 016 (016.1 being in the works right now).
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samat 10y ago
Spectacle for Mac has this feature, too.
vanderZwan 10y ago
> Windows has actually gotten pretty good, surprisingly (drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen). Add a dash of Taekwindow to the mix, and you'll have everything you need: http://taekwindow.net/ http://taekwindow.net/
- Illniyar 10y ago
  You can use window button + arrows to attach windows to corners.
  - vanderZwan 10y ago
    Yes, I know :). Taekwindow adds X11-like behaviour with ALT+left/right click drag to move/resize. Also let's you have scroll-under-cursor instead of scroll-focused-window behaviour. So it's entirely complementary, and you can customise to your liking.
- thedaemon 10y ago
  I use a similar application AltDrag. I can't live without it. I of course set it to the Win Key instead of Alt, as Alt key is used heavily in Blender and some other of the software that I use. https://stefansundin.github.io/altdrag/ https://stefansundin.github.io/altdrag/
shakna 10y ago
> I really would love a window manager that handles tiling well, but doesn't require complete buy-in to a fully tiled concept. I use OpenBox and awesomewm together. I can tile if I want, but I also have access to a more traditional approach. Because of OpenBox's configuration of everything, I can often link the two together to do fun things like, tile all windows equally around my active window, that I can drag and resize as I like.
userbinator 10y ago
drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen Incidentally, that behaviour was one of the first things I had to figure out how to turn off in Windows, because I just wanted to move the window there; I did NOT want to resize it. I found it quite annoying.
wjoe 10y ago
Cinnamon has similar "drag to edge" tiling as Windows, and you can also configure keyboard shortcuts for it - I have win+arrow keys configured to move windows to the edges/corners.

tezza 10y ago

use Divvy ( Mac, Windows ) You get granular ad-hoc tiling that fits the need you have when you have it. http://mizage.com/divvy/ http://mizage.com/divvy/

m-j-fox 10y ago
The video looks pretty sweet. Expensive though.
i336_ 10y ago
If this let you specify the grid settings using the keyboard instead of requiring me to use the mouse, I'd love it. Oh, and I'm on Linux, as well...

marricks 10y ago

Moom for Mac is great with near perfect functionality. Hover over the "Fullscreen" button and you can select by a customizable grid for size and placement. Also quick half sized options.

LeoPanthera 10y ago
I deeply love Moom because you can set it up to be tiled-with-gaps, which is ideal if you're still occasionally using your mouse to move stuff around.
- X86BSD 10y ago
  Argh! Yet another incredible piece of software I never heard of until stumbling across the posts here in a HN thread. Why is finding these great pieces of software so hard! Thanks for the tip on it!
- kitsunesoba 10y ago
  Another fan here. There are other small utilities that provide the same functionality, but Moom is best to me because it doesn't hijack screen edges/corners, preventing accidental maximizing and playing more nicely with a workflow with an even mix of maximized and odd-sized windows.

wernercd 10y ago

> Windows has actually gotten pretty good, surprisingly (drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen) Holy shit on a shingle... how did I not know about this magic incantation!

AceJohnny2 10y ago
Even better then: try the Win key + arrow keys.
- bastijn 10y ago
  And shift+win+arrows to kick it over your multiple monitors. With those two features now in Windows (for a while) I could finally drop my autohotkey windowing script.
- wernercd 10y ago
  I knew about and use the hell out of the Win+Arrow combo... but I didn't know you could drag to corners/sides to get the same effect. Always nice to have alternatives - and I'm always dragging stuff around to different windows so it'll be nice to not have to drag, drop and then window key stuff.
- to3m 10y ago
  I'm going to plug my dispswitch program (https://github.com/tom-seddon/dispswitch https://github.com/tom-seddon/dispswitch - Windows only. You run it from a hotkey manager such as AutoHotKey). It does a better job of preserving monitor-relative size and position when you've got monitors with work rects of different sizes. For tiling windows, try align_window3 (https://github.com/tom-seddon/align_window3 https://github.com/tom-seddon/align_window3 - again, it's for Windows, and use AutoHotKey). It gives you more portrait-friendly options than the Windows default stuff.
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hashhar 10y ago

On that last statement of yours, keep this as a rule of thumb: If an API, 1.0 means stable. If an application, 1.0 means fully featured (as dictated by the author or community).

hashhar 10y ago
Why the downvote?
- dredmorbius 10y ago
  No idea, but in general, there are no general rules for version numbers.
  - hashhar 10y ago
    Well, of course. It's just a common pattern that I've observed (mostly in the npm packages and linux cli tools).

llukas 10y ago

KDE has drag to corner to get quarter screen window for a long time.

scorpioxy 10y ago
I've been a kde user for a couple of years now and I had no idea this existed...
- zeotroph 10y ago
  Unfortunately in Window Maker the left/right edges of the screen move a window to another virtual desktop (by default), so this would have to be limited to the top or bottom edges which do not seem to have an action tied to them so far.
- llukas 10y ago
  There is also drag to edge to get half of the screen. (only for left/right edges)
  - sho_hn 10y ago
    And you can left click and middle click the maximize button on a window title bar to maximize it on the vertical and horizontal axises only. Combined with edge snapping making it easy to move a window on only one axis at that point, you can set up a few column tiles that way very easily. Funny memory: I've been a KDE developer for 12 or 13 years. I think one of my first patches ever was a fix for the window manager to restore to correct window geometry when cancelling a partially maximized state using the restore action. A friend of mine was using the above feature to set up tiled text editors and I wanted to fix it for him.

simongr3dal 10y ago

Personally I find Magnet[1] (for Mac) to be wonderful, it moves your windows around to halves, thirds, and two-thirds presets with either dragging or keyboard shortcuts. [1]: http://magnet.crowdcafe.com http://magnet.crowdcafe.com

m-j-fox 10y ago
That looks great. I love that it supports thirds.

Zardoz84 10y ago

KDE had it many years ago.

Elv13 10y ago

AwesomeWM is both a tiling and floating WM. It has this feature (including snap to corner for 1/4). Awesome is a window manager framework allowing its users to be pretty much anything they want. (disclaimer, I am a contributor)

digi_owl 10y ago
And it is default WM on Gobolinux 016 (016.1 being in the works right now).

deleted 10y ago

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samat 10y ago

Spectacle for Mac has this feature, too.

vanderZwan 10y ago

> Windows has actually gotten pretty good, surprisingly (drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen). Add a dash of Taekwindow to the mix, and you'll have everything you need: http://taekwindow.net/ http://taekwindow.net/

Illniyar 10y ago
You can use window button + arrows to attach windows to corners.
- vanderZwan 10y ago
  Yes, I know :). Taekwindow adds X11-like behaviour with ALT+left/right click drag to move/resize. Also let's you have scroll-under-cursor instead of scroll-focused-window behaviour. So it's entirely complementary, and you can customise to your liking.
thedaemon 10y ago
I use a similar application AltDrag. I can't live without it. I of course set it to the Win Key instead of Alt, as Alt key is used heavily in Blender and some other of the software that I use. https://stefansundin.github.io/altdrag/ https://stefansundin.github.io/altdrag/

shakna 10y ago

> I really would love a window manager that handles tiling well, but doesn't require complete buy-in to a fully tiled concept. I use OpenBox and awesomewm together. I can tile if I want, but I also have access to a more traditional approach. Because of OpenBox's configuration of everything, I can often link the two together to do fun things like, tile all windows equally around my active window, that I can drag and resize as I like.

userbinator 10y ago

drag to corners to get a quarter screen window, drag to sides to get half screen Incidentally, that behaviour was one of the first things I had to figure out how to turn off in Windows, because I just wanted to move the window there; I did NOT want to resize it. I found it quite annoying.

wjoe 10y ago

Cinnamon has similar "drag to edge" tiling as Windows, and you can also configure keyboard shortcuts for it - I have win+arrow keys configured to move windows to the edges/corners.