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Ah the 'I'll fire your ass if you give me an excuse on the due date but of course an attempt to maintain an open line of communication between now and then will

Ah the 'I'll fire your ass if you give me an excuse on the due date but of course an attempt to maintain an open line of communication between now and then will be met with sunshine and rainbows.' Let's call this disingenuous bullshit what it is - management by fear. Don't tell me you're about 'collective problem solving' in an environment where people are constantly fearing for their jobs.

pm90 10y ago
Heh, I think it made sense upto the point where he threatened firing people. I agree that is too extreme: you're gonna quickly lose a lot of people who perform best when they're not under constant pressure.
- rhizome 10y ago
  He comes from a culture where nobody is fired and failing upwards is almost a natural law.
- btilly 10y ago
  I disagree. Strongly. A common attitude of effective managers as documented by First, Break All The Rules can be summed up by, "I never waited too long to make the right hire. I never fired the wrong one quickly enough." Having the wrong employee is very toxic for your organization and culture. The rules that Steve laid out do not actually put pressure on people. They amount to, "Be accountable for what you say, try to make it work, and let people know quickly once you hit a roadblock." It is about effort and communication, not achieving results. People who don't put in effort and don't communicate can't be made to, and can't stay. But people who do, can. And, on average, this will work out well.
  - Asooka 10y ago
    >The rules that Steve laid out do not actually put pressure on people To paraphrase what someone else said, "If a person is saying you're pressuring them, it's not your place to say you aren't"
    - btilly 10y ago
      The correct form of that is that if someone says that they are under pressure, it's not your place that they aren't. However people both can be and are frequently dishonest with themselves about WHERE pressure is coming from. The challenge with Steve's rules is that people have to fight defensive behavior within themselves. If you believe that Steve will use your actions against you, it is really hard to follow his rules. If everyone follows his rules with trust that things will work well, following them is easy and things work well. If you can't trust him, then you don't belong in that organization. But given what I know about him from years of observation at a distance, he means what he says and says what he means. I do not believe that he will use people's actions against them. And it would quickly not work out for him if he did.
  - nercht12 10y ago
    >> The rules that Steve laid out do not actually put pressure on people. They amount to, "Be accountable for what you say, try to make it work, and let people know quickly once you hit a roadblock." It is about effort and communication, not achieving results. Just want to clarify: It's subjective perspective. It is pressure and it is about achieving results, but it's not unreasonable or unexpected for any business. I pay you, you do work. Period. Or the company fails. >> People who don't put in effort and don't communicate can't be made to, and can't stay. Depends on the personality of the individual. Make sure you work with them first and figure out if you CAN get them to cooperate. If you don't bother trying but just put up the rules and say "follow this", there is the possibility you'll dump a good employee and have to spend the next 6 months getting HR to replace him/her.
    - btilly 10y ago
      Just want to clarify: It's subjective perspective. Right. Whether there is pressure is a subjective judgement. But the fact that you feel pressure DOES NOT make it an objective fact that someone else is putting pressure on you. To get to an objective fact, you would need to find fair and neutral third parties. Neither of the two people directly involved can actually judge. As a neutral third party, my impression of Steve Blank is that he is probably a very good person to work for. I have been in environments similar to the one that he described. And I found them very good environments to be in.
- analog31 10y ago
  It's not just losing the wrong people, but also retaining the wrong people: A common outcome of management by fear is that people learn survival tactics: Avoiding commitment, shifting responsibility, finishing tasks poorly rather than late, ass-covering, and outright cooking the books.
cj 10y ago
You missed Steve Blank's point. My interpretation is he's simply advocating that if someone is aware of an issue that will set a project deadline back, don't keep it a secret and surprise everyone when the deadline isn't met. Instead of "management by fear", build a culture where missing meeting deadlines is OK as long as a valid reason was communicated to the stake holders BEFORE the due date (no surprises). If a someone who's a project dependency had a family member pass away which will likely lead to a project delay, Blank is suggesting that's something that can be communicated honestly + transparently to a superior (and very much understandably - should be no fear involved). The upside is the superior can potentially reallocate resources to keep the project on track while not be getting caught off guard with a project unexpectedly derailed.
- rhizome 10y ago
  My interpretation is he's simply advocating that if someone is aware of an issue that will set a project deadline back, don't keep it a secret and surprise everyone when the deadline isn't met. If this is his point, he's a lousy writer.
  - valuearb 10y ago
    He clearly stated this more than once.
    - rhizome 10y ago
      Then why rely on interpretation?
  - jstandard 10y ago
    In reading the article I also had the same interpretation as cj. Blank is talking about acknowledging and dealing with risks early.
    - joepvd 10y ago
      > Blank is talking about acknowledging and dealing with risks early. True that. He also mentioned firing people for not complying with his new rules several times. And also that he did. Those seem like the more substantive acts of his reign, as communicated in this post.
taurath 10y ago
Further than that, the manager tells their employees "I've made myself too busy to ask you about what's important to me, so it's now 100% on you to do so." That's like expecting your relationships to go well with no upkeep on your side, only a "tell me if I'm doing something wrong"!
valuearb 10y ago
If you aren't afraid of losing your job, you either work for the government or have a strong union. For the rest of us, setting clear expectations produces the opposite of fear, it gives you confidence in what you are expected to do.

pm90 10y ago

Heh, I think it made sense upto the point where he threatened firing people. I agree that is too extreme: you're gonna quickly lose a lot of people who perform best when they're not under constant pressure.

rhizome 10y ago
He comes from a culture where nobody is fired and failing upwards is almost a natural law.
btilly 10y ago
I disagree. Strongly. A common attitude of effective managers as documented by First, Break All The Rules can be summed up by, "I never waited too long to make the right hire. I never fired the wrong one quickly enough." Having the wrong employee is very toxic for your organization and culture. The rules that Steve laid out do not actually put pressure on people. They amount to, "Be accountable for what you say, try to make it work, and let people know quickly once you hit a roadblock." It is about effort and communication, not achieving results. People who don't put in effort and don't communicate can't be made to, and can't stay. But people who do, can. And, on average, this will work out well.
- Asooka 10y ago
  >The rules that Steve laid out do not actually put pressure on people To paraphrase what someone else said, "If a person is saying you're pressuring them, it's not your place to say you aren't"
  - btilly 10y ago
    The correct form of that is that if someone says that they are under pressure, it's not your place that they aren't. However people both can be and are frequently dishonest with themselves about WHERE pressure is coming from. The challenge with Steve's rules is that people have to fight defensive behavior within themselves. If you believe that Steve will use your actions against you, it is really hard to follow his rules. If everyone follows his rules with trust that things will work well, following them is easy and things work well. If you can't trust him, then you don't belong in that organization. But given what I know about him from years of observation at a distance, he means what he says and says what he means. I do not believe that he will use people's actions against them. And it would quickly not work out for him if he did.
- nercht12 10y ago
  >> The rules that Steve laid out do not actually put pressure on people. They amount to, "Be accountable for what you say, try to make it work, and let people know quickly once you hit a roadblock." It is about effort and communication, not achieving results. Just want to clarify: It's subjective perspective. It is pressure and it is about achieving results, but it's not unreasonable or unexpected for any business. I pay you, you do work. Period. Or the company fails. >> People who don't put in effort and don't communicate can't be made to, and can't stay. Depends on the personality of the individual. Make sure you work with them first and figure out if you CAN get them to cooperate. If you don't bother trying but just put up the rules and say "follow this", there is the possibility you'll dump a good employee and have to spend the next 6 months getting HR to replace him/her.
  - btilly 10y ago
    Just want to clarify: It's subjective perspective. Right. Whether there is pressure is a subjective judgement. But the fact that you feel pressure DOES NOT make it an objective fact that someone else is putting pressure on you. To get to an objective fact, you would need to find fair and neutral third parties. Neither of the two people directly involved can actually judge. As a neutral third party, my impression of Steve Blank is that he is probably a very good person to work for. I have been in environments similar to the one that he described. And I found them very good environments to be in.
analog31 10y ago
It's not just losing the wrong people, but also retaining the wrong people: A common outcome of management by fear is that people learn survival tactics: Avoiding commitment, shifting responsibility, finishing tasks poorly rather than late, ass-covering, and outright cooking the books.

cj 10y ago

You missed Steve Blank's point. My interpretation is he's simply advocating that if someone is aware of an issue that will set a project deadline back, don't keep it a secret and surprise everyone when the deadline isn't met. Instead of "management by fear", build a culture where missing meeting deadlines is OK as long as a valid reason was communicated to the stake holders BEFORE the due date (no surprises). If a someone who's a project dependency had a family member pass away which will likely lead to a project delay, Blank is suggesting that's something that can be communicated honestly + transparently to a superior (and very much understandably - should be no fear involved). The upside is the superior can potentially reallocate resources to keep the project on track while not be getting caught off guard with a project unexpectedly derailed.

rhizome 10y ago
My interpretation is he's simply advocating that if someone is aware of an issue that will set a project deadline back, don't keep it a secret and surprise everyone when the deadline isn't met. If this is his point, he's a lousy writer.
- valuearb 10y ago
  He clearly stated this more than once.
  - rhizome 10y ago
    Then why rely on interpretation?
- jstandard 10y ago
  In reading the article I also had the same interpretation as cj. Blank is talking about acknowledging and dealing with risks early.
  - joepvd 10y ago
    > Blank is talking about acknowledging and dealing with risks early. True that. He also mentioned firing people for not complying with his new rules several times. And also that he did. Those seem like the more substantive acts of his reign, as communicated in this post.

taurath 10y ago

Further than that, the manager tells their employees "I've made myself too busy to ask you about what's important to me, so it's now 100% on you to do so." That's like expecting your relationships to go well with no upkeep on your side, only a "tell me if I'm doing something wrong"!

valuearb 10y ago

If you aren't afraid of losing your job, you either work for the government or have a strong union. For the rest of us, setting clear expectations produces the opposite of fear, it gives you confidence in what you are expected to do.