> I'm not sure how one would would even go about independent testing, now or ever. That's a bit short sighted isn't it? Certainly the companies themselves hav

> I'm not sure how one would would even go about independent testing, now or ever. That's a bit short sighted isn't it? Certainly the companies themselves have internal testing in order to help them judge, for example, whether some sensor data is useful or not. I disagree strongly that the only valid test comes from consumer-driving. Plenty of things on the market go through trials before being sold to the public, be it toys, drugs or cars. I'm not calling for regulated testing by the government. Just something cool that can get more people, even the companies themselves, excited about self driving vehicles. George Hotz could do it. He knows the tech and has the popularity to get people's attention. Or, Chris Urmson, any others who previously participated in DARPA, or any existing SDC company.