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Would you rather not be asked?

finnn 10y ago
That's entirely besides the point. The fact that they're trying to get that information at all is offensive
dredmorbius 10y ago
Frankly, yes. The presumption that any website should be able to access location information should be taboo. If it's necessary to determine a location for the purposes of a query (e.g., "where is a pizza restaurant (and personal information feed front-end to personal data tracking, FWIW) near <address> or <postal code>?"), then allow the user to state where they're interested in this. I've got precisely the same gripes against Google (Maps, etc., Android), Apple, and any given mobile phone provider.
- scrollaway 10y ago
  > then allow the user to state where they're interested in this. Which is precisely what is happening here. We do not let computers decide whether the purpose is nefarious or good.
  - dredmorbius 10y ago
    No it's not. If I'm actively engaging in something, and there's the option to specify (note: not be interrupted by a pop-up) for location, manually input, that's within the realm of acceptability. Though it's distantly possible I might have no idea of my location within, say, a 1km resolution at a point in time, that is an exceptionally distant and rare likelihood for me. And I've no interest in leaving a set of high-time-resolution location tracking datapoints across a slew of data repositories and "information partners".
    - scrollaway 10y ago
      > that is an exceptionally distant and rare likelihood for me Congratulations on not getting out much? Please remember you're not everybody. For a lot of people, websites being able to ask for a location is a useful feature. Keyword: ask. They're not just getting it, they're asking. If you don't want to "leave a set of high-time-resolution location tracking datapoints across a slew of data repositories", you can click no, just as I do almost all the time, except when it's useful. Because it's useful.
      - dredmorbius 10y ago
        How, specifically, is the OC Weekly having access to your GPS / ICBM coordinates useful to you? As for my generally excellent sense of geographic location, I make no apologies.
        scrollaway 10y ago
        There are other websites. If your beef is with one website, take it up with the website.
        dredmorbius 10y ago
        You're dodging the question.
        diminoten 10y ago
        Your question was a bad one.
- diminoten 10y ago
  What's the difference between asking for someone to share their location and asking someone to share their address?

finnn 10y ago

That's entirely besides the point. The fact that they're trying to get that information at all is offensive

Frankly, yes. The presumption that any website should be able to access location information should be taboo. If it's necessary to determine a location for the purposes of a query (e.g., "where is a pizza restaurant (and personal information feed front-end to personal data tracking, FWIW) near <address> or <postal code>?"), then allow the user to state where they're interested in this. I've got precisely the same gripes against Google (Maps, etc., Android), Apple, and any given mobile phone provider.

scrollaway 10y ago
> then allow the user to state where they're interested in this. Which is precisely what is happening here. We do not let computers decide whether the purpose is nefarious or good.
- dredmorbius 10y ago
  No it's not. If I'm actively engaging in something, and there's the option to specify (note: not be interrupted by a pop-up) for location, manually input, that's within the realm of acceptability. Though it's distantly possible I might have no idea of my location within, say, a 1km resolution at a point in time, that is an exceptionally distant and rare likelihood for me. And I've no interest in leaving a set of high-time-resolution location tracking datapoints across a slew of data repositories and "information partners".
  - scrollaway 10y ago
    > that is an exceptionally distant and rare likelihood for me Congratulations on not getting out much? Please remember you're not everybody. For a lot of people, websites being able to ask for a location is a useful feature. Keyword: ask. They're not just getting it, they're asking. If you don't want to "leave a set of high-time-resolution location tracking datapoints across a slew of data repositories", you can click no, just as I do almost all the time, except when it's useful. Because it's useful.
    - dredmorbius 10y ago
      How, specifically, is the OC Weekly having access to your GPS / ICBM coordinates useful to you? As for my generally excellent sense of geographic location, I make no apologies.
      - scrollaway 10y ago
        There are other websites. If your beef is with one website, take it up with the website.
        dredmorbius 10y ago
        You're dodging the question.
        diminoten 10y ago
        Your question was a bad one.
diminoten 10y ago
What's the difference between asking for someone to share their location and asking someone to share their address?