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The last time hey did this it flooded the market with dirt cheap E5-2560s. Are we in for a new updated deal?

by hyperbovine 10y ago

fnbr 10y ago
Where did you find them? eBay?
- quink 10y ago
  To the extent that dual socket LGA2011 ATX/LLB boards moved up in price to a point where you could pay three or four times more for a suitable mobo than for sixteen cores of CPU. eBay E5-2670
- matthew-wegner 10y ago
  This used to be <$500, but currently $633 for a motherboard, dual E5-2670 CPUs, and 128GB ECC memory: http://www.natex.us/Intel-S2600CP-Motherboard-Package-Deal-p/intel-s2600cp2j-128gb.htm http://www.natex.us/Intel-S2600CP-Motherboard-Package-Deal-p...
  - anderspitman 10y ago
    +1 for natex. That's where I got my motherboard and it's worked great for about 6 months.
  - anderspitman 10y ago
    Highly recommend this case if you go with an Intel S2600CP (or any other SSI EEB mobo): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854003&cm_re=enthoo-_-11-854-003-_-Product https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681185...
    - blakes 10y ago
      I am using the Fractal Design Define XL R2 (what a name) for my Supermicro dual CPU mobo, I drilled one extra mounting hole and the mobo mounted just fine. Very quite and solid.
- oso2k 10y ago
  HP z820/z620/z420 and Dell T7600/T5600 are great used workstations that support the Xeon E5-26xx V1 series processors at very reasonable prices on eBay. Workstations are $300-$700 (maybe add CPU, RAM, HD, graphics card) shipped. I've bought a z820 and z620 at $420 & $499 respectively. My machines were partially usable missing only a second CPU & graphics card in the z820. z620 was fully usable with dual E5-2620s. I added a pair of E5-2660s, 128GB of RAM, and a second CPU cooler+fan to the z820 for $500 shipped and swapped the graphics card. So for $920, I got a 32 threads and 128GB beast z820 (probably would have cost $20K new) and a E5-2640 and 16GB of RAM to sell. So easy to work with too with their tool-less design. It's a great 4K video/photo editing & OpenShift lab machine. Literally 300 chrome tabs and it hasn't cracked past 16GB of RAM usage in RHEL. Just need to spin up some VMs now.
anderspitman 10y ago
I'm writing this on a dual E5-2670 v1 system I built for about 1000USD (not including monitors). 16C/32T, intell s2600cp motherboard, 48GB ECC, 256GB SSD (some cheap one), dual 3TB WD Red. Running docker and kvm on the host, and also currently using it as my main desktop. I have a freenas guest with ZFS handling the HDDs (PCI passthrough of a SATA controller), and a Windows 10 guest with GPU passthrough for office and games. All-in-all it's been a fun project, especially for the price. Incredible how cheap hardware can be these days. I paid 60USD for the CPUs when I did my build. I think they've gone up about 50% since then, but are still a steal in my opinion.
- krylon 10y ago
  Just out of curiosity, do you have an idea how much power that system uses? I will probably get myself a new desktop computer sometime this year, and those specs sound pretty sweet. But I want to keep an eye on power consumption, too, and I don't my desktop to either melt or have its fans create a tornado in my living room... ;-)
  - andwur 10y ago
    I'm really interested in this too. I'm tossing up between something like this (maximum thread count but probably high power usage) or a Ryzen build (simple and low power). That CPU has a TDP of 115W but I can't find much information on the idle power usage. I would also like to see a write-up of the GPU pass-through setup since that's something I've been wanting to have on my local system for ages, i.e. vm host system => dev vm 1 ... vm N, Windows VM + dedicated GPU for gaming etc.
    - anderspitman 10y ago
      If I were doing a build today, I would be sorely tempted by Ryzen, mostly because it would be new hardware and the AM4 platform. That said, having a server board has turned out to be really nice for a lot of things, such as ECC memory and nice virtualization features. It looks like Ryzen has some issues with kvm passthrough so far[0]. My favorite resources are [1] and [2]. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/5yo83m/ryzen_pcie_passthrough_update_works_but_weird/?st=j062bsy0&sh=b7bee9c2 https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/5yo83m/ryzen_pcie_pas... [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVM... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO

The last time hey did this it flooded the market with dirt cheap E5-2560s. Are we in for a new updated deal?

fnbr 10y ago

Where did you find them? eBay?

quink 10y ago
To the extent that dual socket LGA2011 ATX/LLB boards moved up in price to a point where you could pay three or four times more for a suitable mobo than for sixteen cores of CPU. eBay E5-2670
matthew-wegner 10y ago
This used to be <$500, but currently $633 for a motherboard, dual E5-2670 CPUs, and 128GB ECC memory: http://www.natex.us/Intel-S2600CP-Motherboard-Package-Deal-p/intel-s2600cp2j-128gb.htm http://www.natex.us/Intel-S2600CP-Motherboard-Package-Deal-p...
- anderspitman 10y ago
  +1 for natex. That's where I got my motherboard and it's worked great for about 6 months.
- anderspitman 10y ago
  Highly recommend this case if you go with an Intel S2600CP (or any other SSI EEB mobo): https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854003&cm_re=enthoo-_-11-854-003-_-Product https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681185...
  - blakes 10y ago
    I am using the Fractal Design Define XL R2 (what a name) for my Supermicro dual CPU mobo, I drilled one extra mounting hole and the mobo mounted just fine. Very quite and solid.
oso2k 10y ago
HP z820/z620/z420 and Dell T7600/T5600 are great used workstations that support the Xeon E5-26xx V1 series processors at very reasonable prices on eBay. Workstations are $300-$700 (maybe add CPU, RAM, HD, graphics card) shipped. I've bought a z820 and z620 at $420 & $499 respectively. My machines were partially usable missing only a second CPU & graphics card in the z820. z620 was fully usable with dual E5-2620s. I added a pair of E5-2660s, 128GB of RAM, and a second CPU cooler+fan to the z820 for $500 shipped and swapped the graphics card. So for $920, I got a 32 threads and 128GB beast z820 (probably would have cost $20K new) and a E5-2640 and 16GB of RAM to sell. So easy to work with too with their tool-less design. It's a great 4K video/photo editing & OpenShift lab machine. Literally 300 chrome tabs and it hasn't cracked past 16GB of RAM usage in RHEL. Just need to spin up some VMs now.

anderspitman 10y ago

I'm writing this on a dual E5-2670 v1 system I built for about 1000USD (not including monitors). 16C/32T, intell s2600cp motherboard, 48GB ECC, 256GB SSD (some cheap one), dual 3TB WD Red. Running docker and kvm on the host, and also currently using it as my main desktop. I have a freenas guest with ZFS handling the HDDs (PCI passthrough of a SATA controller), and a Windows 10 guest with GPU passthrough for office and games. All-in-all it's been a fun project, especially for the price. Incredible how cheap hardware can be these days. I paid 60USD for the CPUs when I did my build. I think they've gone up about 50% since then, but are still a steal in my opinion.

krylon 10y ago
Just out of curiosity, do you have an idea how much power that system uses? I will probably get myself a new desktop computer sometime this year, and those specs sound pretty sweet. But I want to keep an eye on power consumption, too, and I don't my desktop to either melt or have its fans create a tornado in my living room... ;-)
- andwur 10y ago
  I'm really interested in this too. I'm tossing up between something like this (maximum thread count but probably high power usage) or a Ryzen build (simple and low power). That CPU has a TDP of 115W but I can't find much information on the idle power usage. I would also like to see a write-up of the GPU pass-through setup since that's something I've been wanting to have on my local system for ages, i.e. vm host system => dev vm 1 ... vm N, Windows VM + dedicated GPU for gaming etc.
  - anderspitman 10y ago
    If I were doing a build today, I would be sorely tempted by Ryzen, mostly because it would be new hardware and the AM4 platform. That said, having a server board has turned out to be really nice for a lot of things, such as ECC memory and nice virtualization features. It looks like Ryzen has some issues with kvm passthrough so far[0]. My favorite resources are [1] and [2]. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/5yo83m/ryzen_pcie_passthrough_update_works_but_weird/?st=j062bsy0&sh=b7bee9c2 https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO/comments/5yo83m/ryzen_pcie_pas... [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVM... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO https://www.reddit.com/r/VFIO