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Bunch of horny teenagers and older people thinking their coming of age tv show is art. Hello! There were great tv shows before that!
by babesh 10y ago
Bunch of horny teenagers and older people thinking their coming of age tv show is art. Hello! There were great tv shows before that!
- rev_null 10y agoI could never get past Joss Whedon's inability to write dialog.
- escapologybb 10y agoReally? I find that his ability to write dialogue, especially in the context of Buffy the Vampire Slayer was unmatched. Look at the influence the way they speak has on language and pop culture references. A lot of the idioms and jokes began with things he wrote. I think that's a fairly reasonable marker in the "Joss Weedon is pretty good at writing dialogue" column. IMNSHO. Edited to add: Made changes for clarity.
- zzalpha 10y agoWhendon writes dialog with a very specific and intentional style. You may or may not like that style, but I think it's unfair to claim he cannot write dialog.
- brighteyes 10y agoI think you might be a little too critical, but overall I think you're closer to the truth than the article. For example, Charmed [1] was on around the same time as Buffy, and shared many elements (positive critical reception, fantasy used as metaphor for real-life problems, strong female characters, etc.). I think it's hard to say that Buffy is "the birth of TV as art" and Charmed isn't. More fair to say that both were good shows, and influenced the genre. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charmed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charmed
- dragonwriter 10y agoCharmed is a lot more stylistically conventional than Buffy. I don't think it makes sense to call either "the birth of TV as art"—TV has always been a medium for (heavily commercialized) art—but I think that there are substantial contrasts between. Buffy and Charmed as examples and influences in TV-as-art.
- ianai 10y agoI don't remember the show well enough right now, but I feel like Xena sorta "went there" too.