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> I would be laughed out of the room if I went to my investors and said we were putting everything on Vultr. For reasons better analyzed by anthropologists tha

> I would be laughed out of the room if I went to my investors and said we were putting everything on Vultr. For reasons better analyzed by anthropologists than technologists, but all I would really like is for HN to not be constantly bombarded with not-news GC marketing spam all day.

webmaven 10y ago
Feel free to upvote the stuff that you do find interesting, and encourage others to do the same.
qeternity 10y ago
For reasons better analyzed by historians and statisticians. The historical statistics are that Vultr is far more likely to be a risk to the business than Google is. It's as simple as that.
- kyledrake 10y ago
  Where is this evidence to substantiate this? We would love to read it, please share it with us. I'm not trying to sell anybody on anything, but let's just compare for a moment. Vultr offers 10GbE for all price tiers, access to actual networking power tools like BGP sessions, access to 14 datacenter locations. They provide a generous amount of bandwidth by default and only charge $0.01/GB (the actual market rate) for anything after it. Unlike GC they have yet to "fat finger" a routing table causing a global network outage, or trash an important metadata server like AWS just did. CPU benchmarks routinely show them (and pretty much everybody else) trouncing at least AWS for the same cost basis, by a lot. Benchmarks have also, amazingly, shown some of the AWS instances losing out to mobile phone CPUs. Facts, benchmarks and a cost analysis suggest that they are at worst competitive and likely far superior to GC/AWS offerings in pretty much every way at the one thing that a "cloud" provider should be especially good at: giving you solid, high performance VMs to run your infrastructure on. I don't want to hear crap like "my investor read a marketing brochure somewhere so we went with X". If my investor told me that, I would make sure to inform him of the value of paying less money for a better thing, and how knowing the difference can be a huge competitive advantage.
  - ctlaltdefeat 10y ago
    To be fair, there are some instances where GC has unique technological advantages compared to VPSes. Their new distributed ACID SQL database comes to mind.
    - misframer 10y ago
      Google Cloud also has live migration of VMs.
      - kyledrake 10y ago
        Is that unusual? I just did that with my VMs in the datacenter this morning to add more storage...
    - jazoom 10y ago
      It's true GC has more of these features but I personally avoid stuff like that because that's serious lock-in.

webmaven 10y ago

Feel free to upvote the stuff that you do find interesting, and encourage others to do the same.

qeternity 10y ago

For reasons better analyzed by historians and statisticians. The historical statistics are that Vultr is far more likely to be a risk to the business than Google is. It's as simple as that.

kyledrake 10y ago
Where is this evidence to substantiate this? We would love to read it, please share it with us. I'm not trying to sell anybody on anything, but let's just compare for a moment. Vultr offers 10GbE for all price tiers, access to actual networking power tools like BGP sessions, access to 14 datacenter locations. They provide a generous amount of bandwidth by default and only charge $0.01/GB (the actual market rate) for anything after it. Unlike GC they have yet to "fat finger" a routing table causing a global network outage, or trash an important metadata server like AWS just did. CPU benchmarks routinely show them (and pretty much everybody else) trouncing at least AWS for the same cost basis, by a lot. Benchmarks have also, amazingly, shown some of the AWS instances losing out to mobile phone CPUs. Facts, benchmarks and a cost analysis suggest that they are at worst competitive and likely far superior to GC/AWS offerings in pretty much every way at the one thing that a "cloud" provider should be especially good at: giving you solid, high performance VMs to run your infrastructure on. I don't want to hear crap like "my investor read a marketing brochure somewhere so we went with X". If my investor told me that, I would make sure to inform him of the value of paying less money for a better thing, and how knowing the difference can be a huge competitive advantage.
- ctlaltdefeat 10y ago
  To be fair, there are some instances where GC has unique technological advantages compared to VPSes. Their new distributed ACID SQL database comes to mind.
  - misframer 10y ago
    Google Cloud also has live migration of VMs.
    - kyledrake 10y ago
      Is that unusual? I just did that with my VMs in the datacenter this morning to add more storage...
  - jazoom 10y ago
    It's true GC has more of these features but I personally avoid stuff like that because that's serious lock-in.