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This is something I do wonder about, in this context. I don't have a CI myself, but my 6 year old son does, and I am somewhat concerned that he is-or-might be e

by rasur 10y ago

This is something I do wonder about, in this context. I don't have a CI myself, but my 6 year old son does, and I am somewhat concerned that he is-or-might be experiencing partial sound "blindness" (meaning: sure speech processing is adequate but there are surely some things that are processed away). I have a fair amount of experience in music/sound-recording environments and it makes me somewhat sad for him that he's still "missing out" (although obviously this is outweighed by the fact that he can actually hear and communicate now, but I'm sure you get what I mean). I'd get into the area myself, if I was in anyway useful with DSP code or C++.. May I ask, were your hearing issues (leading to the CI) a recent thing, or long-term? My main interest here is about using machine learning to assist people who do not know sign-language to understand signers rather than to "improve" the actual hearing process (because - personally - my S/L skills are abysmal).

sdrothrock 10y ago
Long term; I have progressive sensorineural hearing loss that was noticed when I was about two and had reached "profound" levels by the time I was about ten. Implanted in my left ear at 16. I actually made the decision to be a part of the normal public school system and never learned sign language, partially out of stubbornness, so I can't really help with SL-related questions, though I'd be more than glad to answer hearing/CI-related questions.
- rasur 10y ago
  Thanks for the offer, but actually have access to plenty of CI-wearers (son at deaf school, lots have CIs.. go figure ;) )
brothercolor 10y ago
Interesting idea on using ML to help non-signers understand sign language. In this thread's context, the ML is designed to help people hear better. In visual contexts (which sign language lives in) would this hypothetical ML help low vision or blind people see better? Because people with 20/20 vision just need a sign language dictionary handy and some patience.
- sdrothrock 10y ago
  > Interesting idea on using ML to help non-signers understand sign language. The dream for me is something like Google Glass with an app that can subtitle spoken, written, and signed language. > Because people with 20/20 vision just need a sign language dictionary handy and some patience. I would think a LOT of patience... the easiest way at that point would just to have the other person fingerspell or write what they're saying; if you're watching something where that's not possible, then the dictionary will just be an exercise in frustration.
  - rasur 10y ago
    > and some patience. Yeah, well that would be one way of handling it, but unfortunately the real world has terrible issues with not impeding my progress on that front. Not that I'm anti-learning, at all, but - personally - I'm fighting a losing battle against learning German, Swiss-German and Swiss-German Sign-language whilst also being a walking-talking-english-lesson :D Taking the slow way, with dictionary in hand, is as you point out, an exercise in frustration (especially if the talker/signer is 6 years old). Yes, I share your dream of something google-glass-like that can add subtitles. There are people working on this (mostly in the UAE, if memory serves). Interesting times ahead - hopefully I won't have to wait long, otherwise I'll have to do it myself and that really would take a while ;)

by rasur 10y ago

sdrothrock 10y ago

Long term; I have progressive sensorineural hearing loss that was noticed when I was about two and had reached "profound" levels by the time I was about ten. Implanted in my left ear at 16. I actually made the decision to be a part of the normal public school system and never learned sign language, partially out of stubbornness, so I can't really help with SL-related questions, though I'd be more than glad to answer hearing/CI-related questions.

rasur 10y ago
Thanks for the offer, but actually have access to plenty of CI-wearers (son at deaf school, lots have CIs.. go figure ;) )

brothercolor 10y ago

Interesting idea on using ML to help non-signers understand sign language. In this thread's context, the ML is designed to help people hear better. In visual contexts (which sign language lives in) would this hypothetical ML help low vision or blind people see better? Because people with 20/20 vision just need a sign language dictionary handy and some patience.

sdrothrock 10y ago
> Interesting idea on using ML to help non-signers understand sign language. The dream for me is something like Google Glass with an app that can subtitle spoken, written, and signed language. > Because people with 20/20 vision just need a sign language dictionary handy and some patience. I would think a LOT of patience... the easiest way at that point would just to have the other person fingerspell or write what they're saying; if you're watching something where that's not possible, then the dictionary will just be an exercise in frustration.
- rasur 10y ago
  > and some patience. Yeah, well that would be one way of handling it, but unfortunately the real world has terrible issues with not impeding my progress on that front. Not that I'm anti-learning, at all, but - personally - I'm fighting a losing battle against learning German, Swiss-German and Swiss-German Sign-language whilst also being a walking-talking-english-lesson :D Taking the slow way, with dictionary in hand, is as you point out, an exercise in frustration (especially if the talker/signer is 6 years old). Yes, I share your dream of something google-glass-like that can add subtitles. There are people working on this (mostly in the UAE, if memory serves). Interesting times ahead - hopefully I won't have to wait long, otherwise I'll have to do it myself and that really would take a while ;)