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"Paid advertising" is where you take money from somebody, and the person you take money from controls the content. I don't see how Microsoft suggesting that you

by scholia 10y ago

"Paid advertising" is where you take money from somebody, and the person you take money from controls the content. I don't see how Microsoft suggesting that you try Edge or OneDrive (which are free, and which you already have) fit into that category.

cm2187 10y ago
OneDrive is free if you have very little data. Microsoft is not pushing OneDrive so proactively just in a spirit of sacrifice to its customers.
- scholia 10y ago
  You get 5GB free, which is more than most people use, and that's in addition to infinite storage for email. OneDrive also compresses Office documents so they take up less space, and it automatically de-duplicates files. It's a very useful 5GB, given that its part of the OS and you can save to it like an internal drive. Of course, in the long run, Microsoft wants people o sign up for Office 365, which provides 1TB per person. That way you get 5TB of storage for peanuts, as well as the full desktop Office and integrated smartphone and tablet apps.
  - cm2187 10y ago
    That's a few days of photos when on holidays
    - scholia 10y ago
      For a very tiny proportion of the population....
      - cm2187 10y ago
        With people shooting videos in 4k with their iphones? And what about music? 5GB is tiny if you save anything else than text files.
        scholia 10y ago
        If you're shooting 4K with an iPhone then obvioulsy you'll use iCloud (also 5GB) not OneDrive. Good luck with that. If you're a normal person then you'll probably use 200MB (my wife) to 1.5GB (me) shooting jpegs. I checked my folders. If you think 5GB of OneDrive is a suitable option for a pro/semipro/serious photographer shooting RAW then I suspect you may have more serious problems than OneDive...
  - scholia 10y ago
    > You get 5GB free, which is more than most people use, and that's in addition to infinite storage for email. I double-checked to be sure. My "free" 15GB of storage in Gdrive is actually 0GB (ie zero, nada, nothing) because I have almost 15GB of email in Gmail. The same amount of email in Outlook still leaves 5GB free in OneDrive, for new users. (I have 25GB because Microsoft grandfathered my earlier storage.)
lewisl9029 10y ago
I was assuming you were talking about the suggestions that suggest apps on the start menu. Those are non-Microsoft apps. How do you think apps get on that list?
- scholia 10y ago
  Never seen one.
  - lewisl9029 10y ago
    http://winaero.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Windows-10-start-menu-suggestions.png http://winaero.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Windows-1... And now you have.
    - scholia 10y ago
      OK, many thanks! Just had a look at my Windows 10 Pro with suggestions turned off and there aren't any ads like that. Or maybe it's because I've never downloaded a game. However, if I had found one, it doesn't seem like it would be worth too much hysteria.... though I confess that the Chrome adverts on Google's search page actually do annoy me. Slightly. Of course, I use Google Search much much more often than the Windows 10 start menu ;-)

by scholia 10y ago

cm2187 10y ago

OneDrive is free if you have very little data. Microsoft is not pushing OneDrive so proactively just in a spirit of sacrifice to its customers.

scholia 10y ago
You get 5GB free, which is more than most people use, and that's in addition to infinite storage for email. OneDrive also compresses Office documents so they take up less space, and it automatically de-duplicates files. It's a very useful 5GB, given that its part of the OS and you can save to it like an internal drive. Of course, in the long run, Microsoft wants people o sign up for Office 365, which provides 1TB per person. That way you get 5TB of storage for peanuts, as well as the full desktop Office and integrated smartphone and tablet apps.
- cm2187 10y ago
  That's a few days of photos when on holidays
  - scholia 10y ago
    For a very tiny proportion of the population....
    - cm2187 10y ago
      With people shooting videos in 4k with their iphones? And what about music? 5GB is tiny if you save anything else than text files.
      - scholia 10y ago
        If you're shooting 4K with an iPhone then obvioulsy you'll use iCloud (also 5GB) not OneDrive. Good luck with that. If you're a normal person then you'll probably use 200MB (my wife) to 1.5GB (me) shooting jpegs. I checked my folders. If you think 5GB of OneDrive is a suitable option for a pro/semipro/serious photographer shooting RAW then I suspect you may have more serious problems than OneDive...
- scholia 10y ago
  > You get 5GB free, which is more than most people use, and that's in addition to infinite storage for email. I double-checked to be sure. My "free" 15GB of storage in Gdrive is actually 0GB (ie zero, nada, nothing) because I have almost 15GB of email in Gmail. The same amount of email in Outlook still leaves 5GB free in OneDrive, for new users. (I have 25GB because Microsoft grandfathered my earlier storage.)

lewisl9029 10y ago

I was assuming you were talking about the suggestions that suggest apps on the start menu. Those are non-Microsoft apps. How do you think apps get on that list?

scholia 10y ago
Never seen one.
- lewisl9029 10y ago
  http://winaero.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Windows-10-start-menu-suggestions.png http://winaero.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Windows-1... And now you have.
  - scholia 10y ago
    OK, many thanks! Just had a look at my Windows 10 Pro with suggestions turned off and there aren't any ads like that. Or maybe it's because I've never downloaded a game. However, if I had found one, it doesn't seem like it would be worth too much hysteria.... though I confess that the Chrome adverts on Google's search page actually do annoy me. Slightly. Of course, I use Google Search much much more often than the Windows 10 start menu ;-)