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> She says this president is like Korea's GWB. If she were like GWB we wouldn't have gone this far. She is more like Nixon, but worse.
by lifthrasiir 10y ago
> She says this president is like Korea's GWB.
If she were like GWB we wouldn't have gone this far. She is more like Nixon, but worse.
- sandworm101 10y agoNixon is "the worst" because he was the one forced from office. But he wasn't actually removed through legal process. They started the process, but he left on his own before it came to anything. Clinton was actually impeached, but did not leave. I dont think the US has ever removed a president legally. They have quit, which isn't the same thing. Korea is ahead in that regard. Im not sure how/if the american system might handle a legal forced removal. In nixon's defense: read his wikipedia article. He wasnt a monster. Many good things came from his presidency.
- swyman 10y agoExcept that time he intentionally sabotaged the 1968 peace talks to end the Vietnam War because he thought it might help him win an election. For reference, the war continued until late 1975. He is directly responsible for each and every casualty and atrocity committed in those 7 years, as well as the thousands upon thousands of irreparably mentally and emotionally damaged veterans that survived. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/nixon-tried-to-spoil-johnsons-vietnam-peace-talks-in-68-notes-show.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/nixon-tried-t...
- sandworm101 10y ago7 years. Iraq and/or afganistan were/are far longer. Every US president has their war. More often than not those wars have ties to domestic politics. That a president uses a war for political gain is expected. It is for the people to hold that in check... which they did with nixon. If not for vietnam he probably would have stayed in office. He spent all his political capital and, when the inevitable scandle hit, he had to go. Other presidents stayed on after far worse.
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- yongjik 10y agoI'm not a US history expert, but I think Nixon had very firm ideas about how to run a country. In the end, people did not approve of these ideas, but at least there was an internally coherent world view. The problem with Park is not that she had wrong ideas, but that she did not have any idea at all. Instead she let her close friend take care of the boring chore of running a country. During the past four years the country was essentially on auto-pilot, progressively worsening while bureaucrats were awaiting for leadership that never materialized. I'd say she's more like Nikolai II, complete with Rasputin.
- lifthrasiir 10y agoI agree. The point is that there is no US president comparable to Park, and probably the closest match is Nixon.
- foota 10y agoNew precedents (presidents, heh) can and are always being set in the United States.
- markdown 10y agoNot Trump?
- true_religion 10y agoTrump appears to know what he wants, and has surrounded with people who believe in his vision of America. There might be some disagreement on the specifics of implementation, but in general they're all keeping the same goal.
- asveikau 10y agoRemember Trump supposedly offered Kasich the VP post, telling him that as VP he can run all the policy, to which Kasich asked "then what will you do?" and rejected the offer. I think a lot of Trump decisions we're seeing are Pence decisions, especially when he does things that get praise from establishment republicans. And we've seen he's delegated quite a bit to folks like Bannon and Miller, to the point where those two are writing executive orders and Trump has complained about being improperly briefed on them after signing.