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Like I care if random people like having a cup of coffee on the terrace with an ipad. 1. put 'ipad' in title 2. write some random thoughts, don't matter if yo

by zalew 16y ago

Like I care if random people like having a cup of coffee on the terrace with an ipad. 1. put 'ipad' in title 2. write some random thoughts, don't matter if you like it or not, if they are even technical or just stories about posting while sitting on the can. 3. ... 4. profit!

jdunck 16y ago
Fred Wilson is a VC -- I'm pretty sure he doesn't need any money derived from this post. He's just posting observations as this market forms.
- garply 16y ago
  Not to say that the GP was particularly insightful, but: I suspect he derives money indirectly from his blog - for example, by securing himself as an authority on tech investing in an industry where reputation is quite important.
  - fredwilson 16y ago
    you are correct that is one of many reasons the AVC blog is extremely valuable to me but it is not the only one
- deleted 16y ago
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- nir 16y ago
  OP does have some point in that Wilson's experience is hardly a common one - first, buying an iPad just to see if he'd like it, second, having email/browsing so important to him that he's even considering a 2nd iPad just to make the experience slightly better. Basically, the early adopters have now bought their iPads and are sitting in the terrace with a glass of wine reading emails. It's fun, but it's not "this changes everything", it's "this gadget is so cool".
  - francoisdevlin 16y ago
    Just wait until industry & manufacturing learns how to use the thing. Then it will change the game.
    - shade 16y ago
      The iPad specifically, or slate devices in general? The former I'm not sure about, the latter, quite possibly. My thinking is that if I were running the IT department in a manufacturing firm looking for ways to bring these devices into my factories, I'd be giving preference to touch-oriented web apps rather than iDevice applications specifically. You retain a bunch of advantages of web apps -- easier and simpler deployments, generally faster development, more choice of languages -- and once the Android tablets start to hit, you avoid locking yourself into a single supplier.
      - francoisdevlin 16y ago
        I was referring to slate devices in general, although I'm sure the iPad will remain the sexiest of the bunch for quite a while.
      - veemjeem 16y ago
        I think android tablets will have a problem of having non-standard interfaces. There are already point of sale machines using the iphone because all iphones have the exact same bottom connector so it makes it fairly standard to interface across. All android devices have different ways of hooking up to -- I don't know why device manufacturers always like reinventing the wheel when it comes to hardware interfaces. I already own a few dozen different phone chargers at home, the only one that hasn't changed is the iphone.
      - riltim 16y ago
        Disclaimer: I write PLC & SCADA system code for a living in the industrial and wastewater markets. Real time plant floor control/monitoring is not an unsolved problem and an iPad/tablet accessible web app was not the solution. See page 12 of the link below[1] for an example of what industry really works with. In some applications seconds can cost thousands of dollars, a limb or even a life. I'd never leave that up to a web browsers JavaScript engine. [1] http://www.automation.siemens.com/salesmaterial-as/brochure/en/brochure_panels_en.pdf http://www.automation.siemens.com/salesmaterial-as/brochure/...

by zalew 16y ago

jdunck 16y ago

Fred Wilson is a VC -- I'm pretty sure he doesn't need any money derived from this post. He's just posting observations as this market forms.

garply 16y ago
Not to say that the GP was particularly insightful, but: I suspect he derives money indirectly from his blog - for example, by securing himself as an authority on tech investing in an industry where reputation is quite important.
- fredwilson 16y ago
  you are correct that is one of many reasons the AVC blog is extremely valuable to me but it is not the only one
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nir 16y ago
OP does have some point in that Wilson's experience is hardly a common one - first, buying an iPad just to see if he'd like it, second, having email/browsing so important to him that he's even considering a 2nd iPad just to make the experience slightly better. Basically, the early adopters have now bought their iPads and are sitting in the terrace with a glass of wine reading emails. It's fun, but it's not "this changes everything", it's "this gadget is so cool".
- francoisdevlin 16y ago
  Just wait until industry & manufacturing learns how to use the thing. Then it will change the game.
  - shade 16y ago
    The iPad specifically, or slate devices in general? The former I'm not sure about, the latter, quite possibly. My thinking is that if I were running the IT department in a manufacturing firm looking for ways to bring these devices into my factories, I'd be giving preference to touch-oriented web apps rather than iDevice applications specifically. You retain a bunch of advantages of web apps -- easier and simpler deployments, generally faster development, more choice of languages -- and once the Android tablets start to hit, you avoid locking yourself into a single supplier.
    - francoisdevlin 16y ago
      I was referring to slate devices in general, although I'm sure the iPad will remain the sexiest of the bunch for quite a while.
    - veemjeem 16y ago
      I think android tablets will have a problem of having non-standard interfaces. There are already point of sale machines using the iphone because all iphones have the exact same bottom connector so it makes it fairly standard to interface across. All android devices have different ways of hooking up to -- I don't know why device manufacturers always like reinventing the wheel when it comes to hardware interfaces. I already own a few dozen different phone chargers at home, the only one that hasn't changed is the iphone.
    - riltim 16y ago
      Disclaimer: I write PLC & SCADA system code for a living in the industrial and wastewater markets. Real time plant floor control/monitoring is not an unsolved problem and an iPad/tablet accessible web app was not the solution. See page 12 of the link below[1] for an example of what industry really works with. In some applications seconds can cost thousands of dollars, a limb or even a life. I'd never leave that up to a web browsers JavaScript engine. [1] http://www.automation.siemens.com/salesmaterial-as/brochure/en/brochure_panels_en.pdf http://www.automation.siemens.com/salesmaterial-as/brochure/...