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Probably because it's something that comes up in every discussion about GCP, just like Go and generics. And some of these comments are pretty useless. Like thi
by lobster_johnson 10y ago
Probably because it's something that comes up in every discussion about GCP, just like Go and generics.
And some of these comments are pretty useless. Like this [1] one. What's even the point? If you can't offer anything interesting, not even an anecdotal data point about reliability, why even contribute?
There's every sign that Google is serious about their IaaS. For example, Google is already dogfooding GCP heavily. According to googlers, a bunch of public Google products run on GCP.
Also, it's worth mentioning that GCP support is very good these days.
Sure, Google is no longer non-evil, and they are deservedly notorious for killing products, but GCP is a different category altogether. They deserve being given the benefit of the doubt in this case, especially as IaaS world really benefits from competition.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13831966 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13831966
- lern_too_spel 10y agoWhat Google products run on GCP? That's news to me. I would think they would have announced that in the keynote.
- lobster_johnson 10y agoNo idea. The information comes from Tim Hockin, Engineering Manager at Google: https://www.reddit.com/r/kubernetes/comments/5vuyls/apache_mesos_vs_googles_kubernetes/de69e5c/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kubernetes/comments/5vuyls/apache_m...
- CydeWeys 10y agoA lot of internal apps (including Memegen) run on GCP. It's simpler to start coding and get something up and running on than bare Borg.
- CydeWeys 10y agoGoogle Registry does. Site here: https://registry.google https://registry.google And you can even see our code: https://nomulus.foo https://nomulus.foo (I work on this project.)
- lern_too_spel 10y agoThat's great, but nobody is going to care all that much if Google Registry or Memegen is down for a few hours. The concern is that Google is asking customers to put mission critical applications on a system that Google itself doesn't put mission critical applications on.
- CydeWeys 10y agoWe have a 24/7/365 5-minute-to-ACK pager rotation. ICANN and our customers certainly care if random parts of the Internet start dropping off. Our annual total downtime is measured in minutes. I can tell you from personal experience that GCP is suitable for these purposes.
- lern_too_spel 10y agoWhich random parts of the Internet start dropping off if Google Registry is down? I'm under the impression that there wouldn't be any news articles (or even tweets) if Google Registry is down for a few hours and that hardly anybody would notice at all. Please explain what I'm missing.
- CydeWeys 10y agoIf the registry goes down, WHOIS, domain checks, and DNS/nameserver updates all start failing instantly. Anyone looking to buy a domain, or update an existing one, will get error messages. If someone happens to be caught in the middle of, say, migrating hosting providers as this happens (which is statistically likely when there are a large number of domain names under management), then they'll be unable to update DNS to point to where the domain name should now go. As the outage grows in length, you'll gradually accumulate more and more stale nameserver entries that cannot be updated, resulting in an increasing number of domain names failing to resolve properly, and thus dropping off the Internet. Additionally, ICANN has stability and uptime requirements, to the point where your gTLDs can be taken away from you if you're doing a poor job of running your registry. Now, granted, we aren't currently running any hugely important TLDs at the moment, but that won't necessarily continue to be the case going forward, plus we aren't the only ones to be using our codebase ... http://www.donuts.domains/donuts-media/press-releases/donuts-collaborates-on-google-s-next-generation-domain-name-registry-back-end-service http://www.donuts.domains/donuts-media/press-releases/donuts...