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I don't know, guys. Inbox was nifty at first but it positively crawls now. Any input action takes several seconds, at best, to process on a fast machine, some

by imglorp 10y ago

I don't know, guys. Inbox was nifty at first but it positively crawls now. Any input action takes several seconds, at best, to process on a fast machine, sometimes much more. Loading Inbox is about 30s. It's maybe 20x slower than straight gmail classic. Plugins will just slow it more?

askvictor 10y ago
Will this even work for inbox? I'd almost guess that they're aligning Gmail as an enterprise product and inbox as consumer.
grmarcil 10y ago
Strange, my experience with Inbox is nowhere near that bad. It is noticeably slower than Gmail classic, but load time is ~2s and actions like search take a fraction of a second. This is all on a 2012 MBP.
- b2600 10y ago
  Gmail is slow to load compared to others. Notably, FastMail. I abandoned Inbox a while ago because of load time. Coming close to abandoning Gmail too. Takes way to long to load. This happens for me on low end laptops AND high end desktops.
rikkus 10y ago
12 seconds to load fully here (that's 11.90 seconds too long - can't they store some stuff in local storage or...?) - and of course it's not really usable until it's fully loaded. You could start trying to type but it'll not do anything, or stuff will move. Opening the 'Updates', er, 'section' with 2 emails in it took 2 seconds, which is silly. I love the flow of Inbox but I'm seriously considering going back to a local client. Are there any good ones left these days? I liked mutt, but using it with an IMAP mailbox made it a bit clunky. I just need to work /fast/, without crashes, without spam, and preferably with vi keys and programmabil... never mind the last two, I can live with the speed, stability and spam-free parts.
- 77ko 10y ago
  > Are there any good ones left these days? Not really. I wish the Mozilla Foundation would rejuvenate their email client once and for all. I found Nylas N1[0] works well, it's cross platform which is a big plus and has plenty of kb shortcuts. [0]: https://nylas.com/ https://nylas.com/
  - newscracker 10y ago
    > Not really. I wish the Mozilla Foundation would rejuvenate their email client once and for all. I would love that too. Sometime last year Mozilla enabled donating specifically to the Thunderbird project (which was a long time wish of mine) as opposed to donating to Mozilla as one entity, and I started donating to it. With more monetary support, we could have possibly have it become much better again (native and good Exchange calendaring support without extensions would be my top wish - the current scheme with the integrated Lightning and Exchange Provider is quite buggy).
    - ksec 10y ago
      Actually Mozilla should not only rejuvenate their Email client, but actually provide a free/paid email services as well.
  - bad_user 10y ago
    I can't trust Nylas because you have to trust yet another third party with your email, in addition to Google/Fastmail/etc. AFAIK Nylas doesn't work locally, but through their "cloud APIs". They are not alone in doing this, for example Outlook for Android does it too. That's not acceptable for me. The email client should only communicate with the email provider. Trusting Google or Fastmail with my email is a leap of faith on its own without an extra third party involved. I'd also question their business model. If Nylas Mail syncs via their own "cloud", it means it's not free to operate on an ongoing basis, which means it will end up either milking users for ads or die.
    - qudat 10y ago

by imglorp 10y ago

askvictor 10y ago

Will this even work for inbox? I'd almost guess that they're aligning Gmail as an enterprise product and inbox as consumer.

grmarcil 10y ago

Strange, my experience with Inbox is nowhere near that bad. It is noticeably slower than Gmail classic, but load time is ~2s and actions like search take a fraction of a second. This is all on a 2012 MBP.

b2600 10y ago
Gmail is slow to load compared to others. Notably, FastMail. I abandoned Inbox a while ago because of load time. Coming close to abandoning Gmail too. Takes way to long to load. This happens for me on low end laptops AND high end desktops.

rikkus 10y ago

12 seconds to load fully here (that's 11.90 seconds too long - can't they store some stuff in local storage or...?) - and of course it's not really usable until it's fully loaded. You could start trying to type but it'll not do anything, or stuff will move. Opening the 'Updates', er, 'section' with 2 emails in it took 2 seconds, which is silly. I love the flow of Inbox but I'm seriously considering going back to a local client. Are there any good ones left these days? I liked mutt, but using it with an IMAP mailbox made it a bit clunky. I just need to work /fast/, without crashes, without spam, and preferably with vi keys and programmabil... never mind the last two, I can live with the speed, stability and spam-free parts.

77ko 10y ago
> Are there any good ones left these days? Not really. I wish the Mozilla Foundation would rejuvenate their email client once and for all. I found Nylas N1[0] works well, it's cross platform which is a big plus and has plenty of kb shortcuts. [0]: https://nylas.com/ https://nylas.com/
- newscracker 10y ago
  > Not really. I wish the Mozilla Foundation would rejuvenate their email client once and for all. I would love that too. Sometime last year Mozilla enabled donating specifically to the Thunderbird project (which was a long time wish of mine) as opposed to donating to Mozilla as one entity, and I started donating to it. With more monetary support, we could have possibly have it become much better again (native and good Exchange calendaring support without extensions would be my top wish - the current scheme with the integrated Lightning and Exchange Provider is quite buggy).
  - ksec 10y ago
    Actually Mozilla should not only rejuvenate their Email client, but actually provide a free/paid email services as well.
- bad_user 10y ago
  I can't trust Nylas because you have to trust yet another third party with your email, in addition to Google/Fastmail/etc. AFAIK Nylas doesn't work locally, but through their "cloud APIs". They are not alone in doing this, for example Outlook for Android does it too. That's not acceptable for me. The email client should only communicate with the email provider. Trusting Google or Fastmail with my email is a leap of faith on its own without an extra third party involved. I'd also question their business model. If Nylas Mail syncs via their own "cloud", it means it's not free to operate on an ongoing basis, which means it will end up either milking users for ads or die.
  - qudat 10y ago