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It takes a technical person to know there are alternatives.

seppin 10y ago
exactly. smartphones are entry level internet devices, it requires almost no knowledge to use. saying you "don't have one and can do everything just fine" is a humblebrag
- lacampbell 10y ago
  If you think being able to live without a smartphone is bragging then the problem really isn't with me, it's with you.
  - M_Grey 10y ago
    Remember, you're homeless in this scenario, so you don't get to comment on HN from your laptop or desktop. Good luck in the libraries!
    - lacampbell 10y ago
      There's no scenario, just people claiming luxury smartphones are essential tools for living. Don't but words in my mouth or erect straw men.
      - M_Grey 10y ago
        If you think being able to live without a smartphone is bragging then the problem really isn't with me, it's with you. In the context of this conversation, which is about people with nothing else... how else should your comment have been interpreted?
      - khedoros1 10y ago
        > just people claiming luxury smartphones are essential tools for living. "Luxury smartphones" aren't essential. Cheap smartphones themselves aren't essential. Access to some kind of internet-connected computing device is becoming essential. Starting from 0, the intersection of price, function, and convenience is more likely to be a smartphone than any kind of laptop/desktop. > There's no scenario The topic is basically "poor people with smartphones". This is the "scenario" that we're talking about.
lacampbell 10y ago
Yes, only the technical elite know about the existence of "android" or "old computers" or "public libraries".
barsonme 10y ago
What? My redneck cousin who lives out in the woods in western Idaho somehow figured out there are alternatives to iPhones. He's about as non-technical as they come. Before I became a "techie" I never had an iPhone. My mom non-technical mom always had an Android. I could go on. Lots of people in my generation have purchased iPhones because they're en vogue and easy to use. I'm not necessarily begrudging somebody who does purchase an iPhone, but non-technical people aren't always as dumb as we make them out to be.

exactly. smartphones are entry level internet devices, it requires almost no knowledge to use. saying you "don't have one and can do everything just fine" is a humblebrag

lacampbell 10y ago
If you think being able to live without a smartphone is bragging then the problem really isn't with me, it's with you.
- M_Grey 10y ago
  Remember, you're homeless in this scenario, so you don't get to comment on HN from your laptop or desktop. Good luck in the libraries!
  - lacampbell 10y ago
    There's no scenario, just people claiming luxury smartphones are essential tools for living. Don't but words in my mouth or erect straw men.
    - M_Grey 10y ago
      If you think being able to live without a smartphone is bragging then the problem really isn't with me, it's with you. In the context of this conversation, which is about people with nothing else... how else should your comment have been interpreted?
    - khedoros1 10y ago
      > just people claiming luxury smartphones are essential tools for living. "Luxury smartphones" aren't essential. Cheap smartphones themselves aren't essential. Access to some kind of internet-connected computing device is becoming essential. Starting from 0, the intersection of price, function, and convenience is more likely to be a smartphone than any kind of laptop/desktop. > There's no scenario The topic is basically "poor people with smartphones". This is the "scenario" that we're talking about.

lacampbell 10y ago

Yes, only the technical elite know about the existence of "android" or "old computers" or "public libraries".

barsonme 10y ago

What? My redneck cousin who lives out in the woods in western Idaho somehow figured out there are alternatives to iPhones. He's about as non-technical as they come. Before I became a "techie" I never had an iPhone. My mom non-technical mom always had an Android. I could go on. Lots of people in my generation have purchased iPhones because they're en vogue and easy to use. I'm not necessarily begrudging somebody who does purchase an iPhone, but non-technical people aren't always as dumb as we make them out to be.