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Huh? By then same logic, you can get a used Android phone for cheap as chips too. I'm not entirely sure if he's the one bullshitting or if it's you. Lost time?
by exergy 10y ago
Huh? By then same logic, you can get a used Android phone for cheap as chips too. I'm not entirely sure if he's the one bullshitting or if it's you. Lost time? What does that even mean? An iphone makes you more productive? THAT much more?
And the "all androids are cheap and useless" trope is so trite at this point.
- kevingadd 10y agoNot "by the same logic". He called iPhones "luxury smartphones". They're not. There are cheap ones and expensive ones, just like how the alternative platform - Android - comes with cheap and expensive phones. Lost time because typically Android phones require more maintenance and produce more hassles for novice users, and a budget Android phone is going to have more problems (and probably stop getting updates). FTR, I haven't owned an iPhone since the original one came out. All Android since. I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who's owned multiple different Android handsets and given them as gifts to family (I've since learned my lesson about that one).
- exergy 10y agoChrist. Sorry for continuing to belabour this, but that's another tired old cliche of iPhones being somehow "simpler". The settings menu of an iPhone is idiotic, the API is more restrictive, meaning that there are things you can do on Android that are impossible on an iPhone, and the asinine arrangement of back buttons/hamburger menus being stacked on the top left of the screen is such poor UI design. On the other hand, the Android of 2017 is crisp, modern and just as capable of handling things stored on it. What exactly is _simpler_ about iPhones specifically? I also really disagree with iPhones somehow having fewer issues than Android phones. You're never just "holding it wrong"? Or being unable to even Copy and Paste? Or having to lug around dongles? Of course, Android has it's own share of stupidities, but to argue that iPhone is vastly superior is being less than accurate. Edit: to add, the bottomline I'm suggesting is that the differences are minor enough that, if an iphone from a couple generations ago is costing you the same as an Android from the same time, it's not clear that an iphone is better. I have an ipad that has aged just as horribly as older androids.
- unprepare 10y ago>The settings menu of an iPhone is idiotic >the API is more restrictive > there are things you can do on Android that are impossible on an iPhone >such poor UI design Do you honestly think these are the things an average consumer thinks about when deciding what phone to get?
- AstralStorm 10y agoYou do get very weird behavior and UI decisions from some apps to compensate for those deficiencies. Some things Android does way better, some it does way worse. As far as ergonomics go, Apple went way too far recently with hiding functionality under gestures or pressure sensitivity, making them not discoverable and sometimes finicky to activate. I'm talking basics, like app switching. On the other hand, for some apps, the limitations mean they have to hold to OS GUI guides more closely.
- M_Grey 10y agoYou also have to be techie enough to use Android... which if you're dirt poor you might not be.
- slavik81 10y agoAndroid works practically the same as iOS. Neither is particularly intuitive, but they're also not hard to learn. One learning experience that sticks out to me was googling how to turn off my iPhone the first time I went to a movie with it.
- M_Grey 10y agoLets not kid ourselves... you can download something from the Android store that ruins your life.
- exergy 10y agoOMG, give me an example for crying out loud! If I'm young and have owned more than one smartphone, I more or less know how they work. To suggest that the poor are somehow too dumb and stupid to appreciate the mysterious, multi-layered nuances of a fucking _App store_ is to crap all over them from your ivory tower.
- M_Grey 10y agoIf I'm young and have owned more than one smartphone... Now make the exciting mental leap... what if you haven't owned a smartphone before?
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- khedoros1 10y agoAn Android was my first smartphone. Later on, I got pretty crazy with my tinkering, but for a long time, I just kept it the way that I purchased it. It wasn't hard to learn, just miserably slow.