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You make it sound like "iPhone" must mean "Brand new, cutting edge iPhone!" It could also be... old, refurbished, or "The iPhone I won" or "the iPhone I got on
by M_Grey 10y ago
You make it sound like "iPhone" must mean "Brand new, cutting edge iPhone!" It could also be... old, refurbished, or "The iPhone I won" or "the iPhone I got on the best sale, " or "The iPhone I still have from when I had a home, and stuff. It's my connection to the world so I can't sell it off."
It isn't just a failure of empathy, but creativity, to miss these points.
- jacquesm 10y agoOr the iphone that was handed down to me by someone else.
- M_Grey 10y agoExactly. You can be poor as dirt and still have people who throw you a bone.
- Banthum 10y agoThe things you're stating would explain a small number of iPhones among a given group of poor people. The observation is that the things are damn near universal and often quite new. It isn't just a failure of intelligence, but cognitive discipline, to miss these points.
- M_Grey 10y agoBy all means, show me the evidence that these "things are damn near universal, and often quite new."
- eganist 10y ago> The things you're stating would explain a small number of iPhones among a given group of poor people. May you please source this assertion?
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- jacquesm 10y agoBesides the fairly obvious jealousy permeating your comment one has to wonder: Were you physically present every time a homeless person came into the possession of a phone? No? Then how do you know what caused them to be able to afford it? It could be: - a gift from a family member - still the property of someone else, but they get to use it (possibly including a plan) - a refurbished device and so on. It's a failure of intelligence to assume that just because someone has the use of something that they should not be able to afford that they are somehow making bad decisions. You could easily argue that for some yuppie buying a car on credit but for a homeless person their phone pretty much is the only expensive thing they will own.
- resfirestar 10y ago"damn near universal" is the biggest myth going around, implicitly and explicitly, in this thread. The data is clear, even in 2014, when cheap android phones were damn near universally terrible. https://gigaom.com/2014/02/20/npd-confirms-it-apples-iphone-is-the-affluent-consumers-device-in-the-us/ https://gigaom.com/2014/02/20/npd-confirms-it-apples-iphone-...
- M_Grey 10y agoI think it's safe to assume, from the total radio silence on the multiple requests to back up that claim, that the original poster probably knew that going in.
- michaelmrose 10y agoCan you prove that most poor people have new iphones for the edification of all of us?
- vilmosi 10y agoThe quote literally said "that NEW iPhone".
- parenthephobia 10y agoThat has no bearing on the truth of the claim. It's disingenuous (and insulting) to suggest that the reason poor people can't afford expensive health insurance is that they all have brand new iPhones, or some other unnecessary luxury. It is a valid rebuttal of that argument that poor people don't all spend their money on brand new iPhones, or the like. One cannot rebut that rebuttal by repeating the original claim.
- vilmosi 10y agoI'm just replying to the comment above, not the article.