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As others pointed out, Canada recently made mandatory their eTA program which is very similar to US ESTA, so the differences are non-existent anymore. Original

by doh 10y ago

As others pointed out, Canada recently made mandatory their eTA program which is very similar to US ESTA, so the differences are non-existent anymore. Original text: The number is huge. For instance the whole EU doesn't need visa for Canada [0] but it does for US (although it's called a waiver program [1], which guarantees nothing). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Canada#Visa_exemptions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Canada#Visa_exe... [1] https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visa-waiver-program.html https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visa-waiver-...

homakov 10y ago
That's news to me. I thought EU can enter US easily
- ubernostrum 10y ago
  The Visa Waiver Program (VWP) allows citizens of 38 countries to enter the US for up to 90 days without a visa. The Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) is an online form which asks questions and determines whether someone is covered by the VWP. Using ESTA to determine this in advance is required when arriving in the US by air, but not when crossing a land border from Canada or Mexico. The "doesn't guarantee anything" bit is true but misleading, since ESTA doesn't provide a visa and doesn't provide an absolute guarantee someone will be admitted under the VWP -- the determination of whether to allow someone to enter is always made at the border. Couple things that are good to know: 1. VWP/ESTA is not terribly different from some other systems, like Australia's ETA, in using the "you don't need a visa, but you do need to check your eligibility online in advance" approach. 2. Not all EU citizens are eligible for the VWP. Citizens of Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Poland and Romania are not eligible for VWP. Which is something the EU has been consistently angry about, and recently the European Parliament rattled its sabers a bit about revoking visa-free travel to the EU for US citizens unless the US adds those five countries to the VWP.
  - _delirium 10y ago
    > 1. VWP/ESTA is not terribly different from some other systems, like Australia's ETA, in using the "you don't need a visa, but you do need to check your eligibility online in advance" approach. Relevant to this thread, it's also quite similar to Canada's eTA, which became mandatory for everyone arriving by air, except Canadian and U.S. passport holders, in November 2016.
kps 10y ago
For friendly Canada all you need is an Electronic Travel Authorization document, whereas the fascist US demands an Electronic System for Travel Authorization document.
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EduardoBautista 10y ago
The visa waiver program is not a visa, that's why it's called the "VISA waiver". It's basically the same process as visiting Canada.
Mikeb85 10y ago
The number is huge? The difference is what, a couple countries?

by doh 10y ago

homakov 10y ago

That's news to me. I thought EU can enter US easily

ubernostrum 10y ago
The Visa Waiver Program (VWP) allows citizens of 38 countries to enter the US for up to 90 days without a visa. The Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) is an online form which asks questions and determines whether someone is covered by the VWP. Using ESTA to determine this in advance is required when arriving in the US by air, but not when crossing a land border from Canada or Mexico. The "doesn't guarantee anything" bit is true but misleading, since ESTA doesn't provide a visa and doesn't provide an absolute guarantee someone will be admitted under the VWP -- the determination of whether to allow someone to enter is always made at the border. Couple things that are good to know: 1. VWP/ESTA is not terribly different from some other systems, like Australia's ETA, in using the "you don't need a visa, but you do need to check your eligibility online in advance" approach. 2. Not all EU citizens are eligible for the VWP. Citizens of Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Poland and Romania are not eligible for VWP. Which is something the EU has been consistently angry about, and recently the European Parliament rattled its sabers a bit about revoking visa-free travel to the EU for US citizens unless the US adds those five countries to the VWP.
- _delirium 10y ago
  > 1. VWP/ESTA is not terribly different from some other systems, like Australia's ETA, in using the "you don't need a visa, but you do need to check your eligibility online in advance" approach. Relevant to this thread, it's also quite similar to Canada's eTA, which became mandatory for everyone arriving by air, except Canadian and U.S. passport holders, in November 2016.

kps 10y ago

For friendly Canada all you need is an Electronic Travel Authorization document, whereas the fascist US demands an Electronic System for Travel Authorization document.

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EduardoBautista 10y ago

The visa waiver program is not a visa, that's why it's called the "VISA waiver". It's basically the same process as visiting Canada.

Mikeb85 10y ago

The number is huge? The difference is what, a couple countries?