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Wow. That "same language connected by an interface schema would have prevented Mars mission loss" thing is a really thin stretch.

kraigspear 10y ago
Exactly. I'm a fan of Swift on the server, but this is the best they can do with marketing?
- ssscommunity 10y ago
  It's still early, 2017 will be exciting times with Swift 4. That's where we are coming to share more of SSS topics in https://www.facebook.com/ServerSideSwiftCommunity/ https://www.facebook.com/ServerSideSwiftCommunity/
tyingq 10y ago
Similar for (roughly) "we ran one benchmark and can now say that swift is similar to java in performance and uses half the memory generally, for all things". No reference to the benchmark either.
- Cthulhu_ 10y ago
  That's not hard either, given the nature of both languages (native / compiled vs JVM). Yes I know Java can perform better in some situations.
- jayd16 10y ago
  The reference was shown in the slide. Here is the link: http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u64q/spectralnorm.html http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u64q/spectralnorm.ht...
  - ssscommunity 10y ago
    In addition to reading Swift benchmark code, mixing unsafe C with Swift aren't complicated to learn and offer more performant. In contrast to Adobe AIR + C API (ANE).
  - dang 10y ago
    The site owner asked us to replace the original URL you had with a static one in the hope of taking some strain off the web server, so we've done that. I hope that's ok.
unit91 10y ago
Yeah, the Mars mission loss is also really well-worn at this point. I've heard this example in contexts ranging from cross-org communication, to software APIs, and unit checking (as in SI, USCS, etc.). Now I can add "language X is better than language Y" to that list!
aub3bhat 10y ago
This submission reminds me of "Satirical hacker news post" """ The Muskonauts figured out why their shit exploded. Hackernews, literally all of whom are actual rocket scientists, wonders if unit tests could have helped. """ Also conveniently forgetting that Computer Scientists are yet to solve types <===> physical dimensions mapping in practical programming language. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/dimensional https://hackage.haskell.org/package/dimensional
- falcolas 10y ago
  The Muskonauts figured out why their shit exploded. The Applluminati wants to replace the Muskonauts' shit with their own shit.
- jahewson 10y ago
  F# units of measure are pretty cool - types for units!
- pducks32 10y ago
  Foundation's Measurements aren't bad and it's easy to extend them to do arithmetic.
Cyph0n 10y ago
What's worse is that the whole "story" wasn't even tied in to the rest of the talk. So basically, the guy spent 10 minutes talking about an interesting anecdote that had almost nothing to do with the rest of the talk.

kraigspear 10y ago

Exactly. I'm a fan of Swift on the server, but this is the best they can do with marketing?

ssscommunity 10y ago
It's still early, 2017 will be exciting times with Swift 4. That's where we are coming to share more of SSS topics in https://www.facebook.com/ServerSideSwiftCommunity/ https://www.facebook.com/ServerSideSwiftCommunity/

tyingq 10y ago

Similar for (roughly) "we ran one benchmark and can now say that swift is similar to java in performance and uses half the memory generally, for all things". No reference to the benchmark either.

Cthulhu_ 10y ago
That's not hard either, given the nature of both languages (native / compiled vs JVM). Yes I know Java can perform better in some situations.
jayd16 10y ago
The reference was shown in the slide. Here is the link: http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u64q/spectralnorm.html http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u64q/spectralnorm.ht...
- ssscommunity 10y ago
  In addition to reading Swift benchmark code, mixing unsafe C with Swift aren't complicated to learn and offer more performant. In contrast to Adobe AIR + C API (ANE).
- dang 10y ago
  The site owner asked us to replace the original URL you had with a static one in the hope of taking some strain off the web server, so we've done that. I hope that's ok.

unit91 10y ago

Yeah, the Mars mission loss is also really well-worn at this point. I've heard this example in contexts ranging from cross-org communication, to software APIs, and unit checking (as in SI, USCS, etc.). Now I can add "language X is better than language Y" to that list!

aub3bhat 10y ago

This submission reminds me of "Satirical hacker news post" """ The Muskonauts figured out why their shit exploded. Hackernews, literally all of whom are actual rocket scientists, wonders if unit tests could have helped. """ Also conveniently forgetting that Computer Scientists are yet to solve types <===> physical dimensions mapping in practical programming language. https://hackage.haskell.org/package/dimensional https://hackage.haskell.org/package/dimensional

falcolas 10y ago
The Muskonauts figured out why their shit exploded. The Applluminati wants to replace the Muskonauts' shit with their own shit.
jahewson 10y ago
F# units of measure are pretty cool - types for units!
pducks32 10y ago
Foundation's Measurements aren't bad and it's easy to extend them to do arithmetic.

Cyph0n 10y ago

What's worse is that the whole "story" wasn't even tied in to the rest of the talk. So basically, the guy spent 10 minutes talking about an interesting anecdote that had almost nothing to do with the rest of the talk.