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Every time I see something about org-mode posted, I get mad FOMO and decide to re-dedicate my life to learning emacs and everything it has to offer. Then a litt

Every time I see something about org-mode posted, I get mad FOMO and decide to re-dedicate my life to learning emacs and everything it has to offer. Then a little while later I inevitably drift back to vim. It's getting to the point where I need to just ignore cool stuff like this post in order to get on with my life.

Veen 10y ago
I split the difference with Emacs and Evil Mode. It's not at all the same as using Vim, but at least I get org mode and Vim-like modal editing.
- mikekchar 10y ago
  I'm also using Emacs and Evil mode as well. It really is very close to vanilla Vim. There are probably only 3 major issues I have. First is that there is no emacs way that I know of to duplicate the work flow for opening files in vanilla Vim. I personally hate control-P. Managing buffers is also a bit different because the paths are not searchable in the buffer names. I'm using ido to help with this, but it has some quirks that I don't really like so well. My biggest problem is the difference in the way the undo buffer works. There are a couple of scenarios where a single undo will back up before the last press of escape. I think there are some bugs for these issues so I'm hopeful that they will be fixed (or have been fixed already -- I haven't updated in a while). It took me quite a while to set things up, but I use it every day as my main editor and I'm quite happy with it. I can also easily jump back into Vim if I'm pairing with a Vim person, which was one of the things I was concerned about.
pawelk 10y ago
Five years ago I have started to use Emacs after I saw some cool org-mode demos in hopes of utilizing some of its power in my organization and task management. I've been using Emacs daily for every programming task since then, but diving into org-mode is still on my to do list...
- krylon 10y ago
  You could use org-mode to manage that todo-list. ;-) SCNR
itamarst 10y ago
Try http://spacemacs.org http://spacemacs.org with Evil mode - vi keybindings, all the power of emacs, and emacs pre-configured to work well out of the box.
- dfrey 10y ago
  spacemacs is all of the power of vim and emacs with all of the complexity of vim and emacs. Having said that, it's what I'm using for writing code now.
  - aaronchall 10y ago
    I was using spacemacs, but I didn't know emacs and lisp well enough to solve problems when I had them, and getting help was hard. Now I'm back to using plain old emacs, and I'm hoping I can learn from spacemacs to make emacs better by contributing back to it.
    - weaksauce 10y ago
      You can get help in the spacemacs gitter chat... there is usually someone around that can help you out for most things. https://gitter.im/syl20bnr/spacemacs https://gitter.im/syl20bnr/spacemacs
      - OhSoHumble 10y ago
        In my experience, it was kind of hard to get someone to reply back to me when I had a problem.
        weaksauce 10y ago
        I can be for some advanced things. it's still emacs under the hood though so emacs resources are valid sources of information. That said, it's not busy during the weekend usually and is more active during US business hours.
  - m-j-fox 10y ago
davidrupp 10y ago
alias vi=emacs I added this to my bash profile when I got serious about learning emacs. I was not a vi power user by any stretch, but it had been my default for years. I much prefer emacs now.
nul_byte 10y ago
Me too. I had a spate where I went over to using emacs (built my own setup around spacemacs). It was very powerful, and I found stuff like helm, projectile very nice (org-mode with export to reveal.js was sexy as hell). But then I just dropped it all and went back to vim again. For me it seems to be down to the following. When I am working with vim, I feel like I am in the same eco-system as my shell, there is a really nice continuity, whereas emacs feels like a separate entity (almost like I have an separate instance of a word processor open). I am aware emacs can be run in the shell without its GUI, but it still felt like it was separately sitting its own world. For org stuff, I now use taskwarrior [1], which embeds into vim using taskwiki [2] and vimwiki [3] (which provides markdown export) [1] https://taskwarrior.org/ https://taskwarrior.org/ [2] https://github.com/tbabej/taskwiki https://github.com/tbabej/taskwiki [3] https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki

Veen 10y ago

I split the difference with Emacs and Evil Mode. It's not at all the same as using Vim, but at least I get org mode and Vim-like modal editing.

mikekchar 10y ago
I'm also using Emacs and Evil mode as well. It really is very close to vanilla Vim. There are probably only 3 major issues I have. First is that there is no emacs way that I know of to duplicate the work flow for opening files in vanilla Vim. I personally hate control-P. Managing buffers is also a bit different because the paths are not searchable in the buffer names. I'm using ido to help with this, but it has some quirks that I don't really like so well. My biggest problem is the difference in the way the undo buffer works. There are a couple of scenarios where a single undo will back up before the last press of escape. I think there are some bugs for these issues so I'm hopeful that they will be fixed (or have been fixed already -- I haven't updated in a while). It took me quite a while to set things up, but I use it every day as my main editor and I'm quite happy with it. I can also easily jump back into Vim if I'm pairing with a Vim person, which was one of the things I was concerned about.

pawelk 10y ago

Five years ago I have started to use Emacs after I saw some cool org-mode demos in hopes of utilizing some of its power in my organization and task management. I've been using Emacs daily for every programming task since then, but diving into org-mode is still on my to do list...

krylon 10y ago
You could use org-mode to manage that todo-list. ;-) SCNR

itamarst 10y ago

Try http://spacemacs.org http://spacemacs.org with Evil mode - vi keybindings, all the power of emacs, and emacs pre-configured to work well out of the box.

dfrey 10y ago
spacemacs is all of the power of vim and emacs with all of the complexity of vim and emacs. Having said that, it's what I'm using for writing code now.
- aaronchall 10y ago
  I was using spacemacs, but I didn't know emacs and lisp well enough to solve problems when I had them, and getting help was hard. Now I'm back to using plain old emacs, and I'm hoping I can learn from spacemacs to make emacs better by contributing back to it.
  - weaksauce 10y ago
    You can get help in the spacemacs gitter chat... there is usually someone around that can help you out for most things. https://gitter.im/syl20bnr/spacemacs https://gitter.im/syl20bnr/spacemacs
    - OhSoHumble 10y ago
      In my experience, it was kind of hard to get someone to reply back to me when I had a problem.
      - weaksauce 10y ago
        I can be for some advanced things. it's still emacs under the hood though so emacs resources are valid sources of information. That said, it's not busy during the weekend usually and is more active during US business hours.
- m-j-fox 10y ago

davidrupp 10y ago

alias vi=emacs I added this to my bash profile when I got serious about learning emacs. I was not a vi power user by any stretch, but it had been my default for years. I much prefer emacs now.

nul_byte 10y ago

Me too. I had a spate where I went over to using emacs (built my own setup around spacemacs). It was very powerful, and I found stuff like helm, projectile very nice (org-mode with export to reveal.js was sexy as hell). But then I just dropped it all and went back to vim again. For me it seems to be down to the following. When I am working with vim, I feel like I am in the same eco-system as my shell, there is a really nice continuity, whereas emacs feels like a separate entity (almost like I have an separate instance of a word processor open). I am aware emacs can be run in the shell without its GUI, but it still felt like it was separately sitting its own world. For org stuff, I now use taskwarrior [1], which embeds into vim using taskwiki [2] and vimwiki [3] (which provides markdown export) [1] https://taskwarrior.org/ https://taskwarrior.org/ [2] https://github.com/tbabej/taskwiki https://github.com/tbabej/taskwiki [3] https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki