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I feel like smoking sections were still a thing in the late 80's / early 90's on some Asian carriers. I was really young though so my recollection is questiona

I feel like smoking sections were still a thing in the late 80's / early 90's on some Asian carriers. I was really young though so my recollection is questionable.

socket0 10y ago
Even as late as 1995, I remember flying from South Africa to the UK (in the non-smoking section) while the guy behind me (in the smoking section) was smoking extremely smelly eastern European cigarettes. Quite an adventure when you're prone to airsickness.
jen729w 10y ago
I flew internationally extensively in '00/'01 and that must have been just after it was banned. I remember an Olympic flight from London to Athens where the now-standard "you can't smoke" announcements were made, and the signs were all turned on, and the second the wheels left the tarmac fully half of the plane lit up. In the same period I flew Air France, to Senegal if memory serves. Again, no smoking and all that, but the stewardesses all bundled up in their galley, curtains closed, and were puffing away. Bizarre to think about now.
drfuchs 10y ago
Worse still, at the time of this episode (1963), there wasn't even a notion of a "Smoking Section". Smokers lit up anywhere on planes, anywhere in restaurants, anywhere in the office, on line at the bank, in any sort of waiting room, really anywhere in general. The very concept of a "Smoking Section" wasn't a thing until the 70's, and it was years before they were ubiquitous in the US.
- pivotal 10y ago
  Even as a former smoker, I never really thought too much about smoking sections until my wife was pregnant. Suddenly someone smoking in the wrong area was a threat to my unborn child and really rubbed me the wrong way. I'm all for personal freedom, but exercising this one around others is stomping on their freedom to breathe freely. I'm glad as a society we've moved on from this for the most part.
mathattack 10y ago
I recall a trip to Japan in the early or mid 90s where I was dumped in the smoking section by mistake. Very long flight.
- rangibaby 10y ago
  The same thing happened to me on the Shinkansen. My eyes were stinging by the end of it. Thankfully they have replaced smoking cars with smoking rooms since then. The JP govt appears to be cracking down on smoking + "encouraging" free Wi-Fi everywhere in time for 2020.
zeveb 10y ago
When I was a boy in the 80s it was still common. My parents didn't smoke, so I loved going on planes, or into restaurants & hospitals (!) to smell smoke. I'm sad that we've lost that culture.
- magic_beans 10y ago
  I hope this is some kind of very, very dry irony :)
ido 10y ago
I flew from Tel Aviv to New York in 1997 and the plane still had a smoking section.
punctilio 10y ago
I flew from JFK to Heathrow in 1986 (don't recall the airline but assume it was either a major US carrier or British Airways) - I vividly remember the cabin being full of cigarette smoke. I suppose there must have been a nominal "section" but can't remember. According to Wikipedia: "After years of debate over health concerns, Congressional action in 1987 led to a ban on inflight smoking. The U.S. ban on inflight smoking began with domestic flights of two hours or less in April 1988, extended to domestic flights of six hours or less in February 1990, and to all domestic and international flights in 2000." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflight_smoking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflight_smoking
- jcadam 10y ago
  As an asthmatic, I find the dry air on planes to be bad enough. If smoking were still allowed, I probably wouldn't be able to fly.
  - coldpie 10y ago
    I was just thinking that, holy cow. It's bad enough when a smoker sits down next to you on the bus. Imagine the guy next to you lighting up on a four hour flight. Holy shit.
- WalterBright 10y ago
  Having flown a lot when smoking was allowed, and you couldn't get away from it, it's nice to not have it anymore.

I feel like smoking sections were still a thing in the late 80's / early 90's on some Asian carriers. I was really young though so my recollection is questionable.

socket0 10y ago

Even as late as 1995, I remember flying from South Africa to the UK (in the non-smoking section) while the guy behind me (in the smoking section) was smoking extremely smelly eastern European cigarettes. Quite an adventure when you're prone to airsickness.

jen729w 10y ago

I flew internationally extensively in '00/'01 and that must have been just after it was banned. I remember an Olympic flight from London to Athens where the now-standard "you can't smoke" announcements were made, and the signs were all turned on, and the second the wheels left the tarmac fully half of the plane lit up. In the same period I flew Air France, to Senegal if memory serves. Again, no smoking and all that, but the stewardesses all bundled up in their galley, curtains closed, and were puffing away. Bizarre to think about now.

drfuchs 10y ago

Worse still, at the time of this episode (1963), there wasn't even a notion of a "Smoking Section". Smokers lit up anywhere on planes, anywhere in restaurants, anywhere in the office, on line at the bank, in any sort of waiting room, really anywhere in general. The very concept of a "Smoking Section" wasn't a thing until the 70's, and it was years before they were ubiquitous in the US.

pivotal 10y ago
Even as a former smoker, I never really thought too much about smoking sections until my wife was pregnant. Suddenly someone smoking in the wrong area was a threat to my unborn child and really rubbed me the wrong way. I'm all for personal freedom, but exercising this one around others is stomping on their freedom to breathe freely. I'm glad as a society we've moved on from this for the most part.

mathattack 10y ago

I recall a trip to Japan in the early or mid 90s where I was dumped in the smoking section by mistake. Very long flight.

rangibaby 10y ago
The same thing happened to me on the Shinkansen. My eyes were stinging by the end of it. Thankfully they have replaced smoking cars with smoking rooms since then. The JP govt appears to be cracking down on smoking + "encouraging" free Wi-Fi everywhere in time for 2020.

zeveb 10y ago

When I was a boy in the 80s it was still common. My parents didn't smoke, so I loved going on planes, or into restaurants & hospitals (!) to smell smoke. I'm sad that we've lost that culture.

magic_beans 10y ago
I hope this is some kind of very, very dry irony :)

ido 10y ago

I flew from Tel Aviv to New York in 1997 and the plane still had a smoking section.

punctilio 10y ago

I flew from JFK to Heathrow in 1986 (don't recall the airline but assume it was either a major US carrier or British Airways) - I vividly remember the cabin being full of cigarette smoke. I suppose there must have been a nominal "section" but can't remember. According to Wikipedia: "After years of debate over health concerns, Congressional action in 1987 led to a ban on inflight smoking. The U.S. ban on inflight smoking began with domestic flights of two hours or less in April 1988, extended to domestic flights of six hours or less in February 1990, and to all domestic and international flights in 2000." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflight_smoking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflight_smoking

jcadam 10y ago
As an asthmatic, I find the dry air on planes to be bad enough. If smoking were still allowed, I probably wouldn't be able to fly.
- coldpie 10y ago
  I was just thinking that, holy cow. It's bad enough when a smoker sits down next to you on the bus. Imagine the guy next to you lighting up on a four hour flight. Holy shit.
WalterBright 10y ago
Having flown a lot when smoking was allowed, and you couldn't get away from it, it's nice to not have it anymore.