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If men become doctors and women become nurses, or if men become Software Engineers and women become Test Engineers, then there's still something wrong with the
by cbhl 10y ago
If men become doctors and women become nurses, or if men become Software Engineers and women become Test Engineers, then there's still something wrong with the world.
"Adjusting for profession" ignores the cultural context of terms like "pay gap" -- we come from a world where women couldn't work certain jobs at all.
- RandomOpinion 10y agoSince we're talking about various X-ism's today, your prejudice against nurses and test engineers is showing. (Seriously, I'm starting to wonder if I should give up the QA profession for good, even though I prefer it to being a developer.)
- cbhl 10y agoI try my best to be mindful of my unconscious bias with respect to nurses and test engineers. My point is that these roles are typically less paid than doctor and SWE roles. I'm all for having more male nurses and more female doctors and SWEs. I think this is a necessary step to solving the pay inequity gap. It's not obvious to me that nurses should be paid the same hourly rate as doctors and software engineers. My understanding is that it's cheaper to get the education to become a nurse versus being a doctor. But I'm not an expert in this field.
- brighteyes 10y ago> If men become doctors and women become nurses, or if men become Software Engineers and women become Test Engineers, then there's still something wrong with the world. Imagine that doctors and nurses were paid the same. Would you still think that? Other than salary, neither being a doctor or a nurse is "better". One is more technical, the other involves more personal contact, but neither of those is better, just different. The same is true for Software Engineers and Test Engineers. It's snobbery to say one is better. We should be lobbying to get nurses paid more.
- humanrebar 10y agoWell, nurses do take direction and even orders from doctors.
- edblarney 10y agoThis is sarcasm, right?
- flukus 10y ago"Higher skill" would be a better description, although I'd say the gap is a lot smaller with test engineers than nurses.