I'm not trying to defend my side or persuade anyone. I have no clue where you got that idea. I agree that shaming people isn't a good way to argue but they're

I'm not trying to defend my side or persuade anyone. I have no clue where you got that idea. I agree that shaming people isn't a good way to argue but they're still selfish by definition and morally in the wrong. Your original conjecture wasn't even about what you are talking about now. You kept complaining about the terms used by someone else. Your previous assertions were all based on bad definitions and anecdotes.