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Healthcare is such a massive hurdle to entrepreneurship, this would be huge!

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ThomPete 10y ago
It has very little effect if any. denmark have a true single payer system and social wellfare program you can only dream of in the us. Yet the number of startups created are declining just like ine the us. It creates a very different mindset.
- michaelchisari 10y ago
  It creates a very different mindset. Danes aside, are you saying that single payer healthcare would convince Californians to be more conservative towards entrepreneurship?
  - ThomPete 10y ago
    No i am saying that its not going to change anything and that longer term it changes how people think of risk.
    - michaelchisari 10y ago
      I find that a bold assertion.
      - ThomPete 10y ago
        Yeah well i have tried both.
        michaelchisari 10y ago
        What have you tried both of?
        ThomPete 10y ago
        Both systems they boyh have pros and cons
- astrange 10y ago
  Do Danes not create "startups" or not create "small businesses"? I keep on referring to Japan, but there's a deserved reputation of it being impossible to create a tech startup there. But that doesn't mean there's no entrepreneurs, they're just called small businesses and are running grocery stores, graphic design agencies, anime studios, etc. What lets you create a "startup" is VC and banks with huge appetites for risk and allowing your business to fail.
- nikdaheratik 10y ago
  We don't know what the effect would be since we've never had a single payer system. In addition, Europe has a number of other labor laws that do not exist in the U.S. as well as other corporate regulations so there is no apples-to-apples comparison. So I agree that adding single payer or changing the healthcare system to have more government involvement probably won't have much effect, but I don't agree that the single-payer + welfare system is the reason why they have different levels of startups in Denmark.
  - ThomPete 10y ago
    Not what i said. Look at parent to what i am answering. Current system was positioned as a burden for startups, my point is simply that healthcare is a burden no matter whst and that changing the system wont make it less a burden, it will just have consequences other places.
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It has very little effect if any. denmark have a true single payer system and social wellfare program you can only dream of in the us. Yet the number of startups created are declining just like ine the us. It creates a very different mindset.

michaelchisari 10y ago
It creates a very different mindset. Danes aside, are you saying that single payer healthcare would convince Californians to be more conservative towards entrepreneurship?
- ThomPete 10y ago
  No i am saying that its not going to change anything and that longer term it changes how people think of risk.
  - michaelchisari 10y ago
    I find that a bold assertion.
    - ThomPete 10y ago
      Yeah well i have tried both.
      - michaelchisari 10y ago
        What have you tried both of?
        ThomPete 10y ago
        Both systems they boyh have pros and cons
astrange 10y ago
Do Danes not create "startups" or not create "small businesses"? I keep on referring to Japan, but there's a deserved reputation of it being impossible to create a tech startup there. But that doesn't mean there's no entrepreneurs, they're just called small businesses and are running grocery stores, graphic design agencies, anime studios, etc. What lets you create a "startup" is VC and banks with huge appetites for risk and allowing your business to fail.
nikdaheratik 10y ago
We don't know what the effect would be since we've never had a single payer system. In addition, Europe has a number of other labor laws that do not exist in the U.S. as well as other corporate regulations so there is no apples-to-apples comparison. So I agree that adding single payer or changing the healthcare system to have more government involvement probably won't have much effect, but I don't agree that the single-payer + welfare system is the reason why they have different levels of startups in Denmark.
- ThomPete 10y ago
  Not what i said. Look at parent to what i am answering. Current system was positioned as a burden for startups, my point is simply that healthcare is a burden no matter whst and that changing the system wont make it less a burden, it will just have consequences other places.

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